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Adolf Hitler’s Debt to Karl Marx
Quadrant ^ | 9th May 2018 | Augusto Zimmermann

Posted on 06/27/2020 9:12:19 PM PDT by neverevergiveup

May 5 was the 200th anniversary of the birth of Karl Marx, author of Das Kapital and the spiritual leader of Communism, a totalitarian ideology that killed more than 100 million people in the 20th century alone. We should expect the European Union oligarchs to show a bit more respect for the innocent victims of Communism. And yet, Jean-Claude Juncker, the head of the European Commission attended the celebration marking the 200th anniversary of Karl Marx’s birth in Trier and openly declared that he was ‘celebrating the father of Communism’. The media also reports that the EU President defended Marx by arguing that he is not “responsible” for mistakes and atrocities committed in his name after his death. He delivered ‘an impassioned speech praising the legacy of the German philosopher’.

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TOPICS: Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2018; chatforum; marxism; nazi; oldnews; socialism
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A few years old, but a good read that is very relevant to current events. My personal opinion is that anyone who thinks Karl Marx was anything more than an angry, lazy, resentful, and intellectually flawed individual with severe father issues needs either remedial learning or a self-examination of their intrinsic hatred of freedom and American society.

Marx is one of the few people who, if possible, I would go back in time to kill and rid the world of. He was a parasite who is responsible for the deaths of several 100 million people, and the suffering of many, many more.

1 posted on 06/27/2020 9:12:19 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: neverevergiveup

Marx is The Left’s god. To them, he can do no wrong.


2 posted on 06/27/2020 9:25:54 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Repeal 16-17

Also please bear in mind that without misguided Friedrich Engels and his family wealth to provide nobody would ever heard of Marx in all probability


3 posted on 06/27/2020 9:32:50 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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We should expect the European Union oligarchs to show a bit more respect for the innocent victims of Communism. And yet, Jean-Claude Juncker, the head of the European Commission attended the celebration marking the 200th anniversary of Karl Marx’s birth in Trier and openly declared that he was ‘celebrating the father of Communism’. …
What’s this “(a)nd yet” stuff? Sounds like someone does not understand the EU. All of its treaties, which are de facto constitutions, proclaim “respect for the charter of the United Nations”—a document deliberately patterned by Alger Hiss after the 1936 USSR constitution.
4 posted on 06/27/2020 9:45:16 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Fiddlstix
Engels was bad enough, having written The Principles of Communism a year before the Manifesto.
There have always been poor and working classes; and the working class have mostly been poor. But there have not always been workers and poor people living under conditions as they are today; in other words, there have not always been proletarians, any more than there has always been free unbridled competitions. …
Interesting that five years ago, Pope Francis cursed “unbridled capitalism” as “the dung of the devil”—he could not have gotten that idea from anywhere else but writings such as the one I cite herein.
5 posted on 06/27/2020 9:49:30 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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“Interesting that five years ago, Pope Francis cursed “unbridled capitalism” as “the dung of the devil”—he could not have gotten that idea from anywhere else but writings such as the one I cite herein.”

Francis should never have been chosen as Pope. He’s an angry ideologue who knows dramatically less than he thinks he knows.


6 posted on 06/27/2020 9:53:34 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: neverevergiveup
Just noticed this:
National Socialism was strongly based on the supremacy of the community over the individual …
A certain US politician whose name has come under fire at Princeton University also thought that way:
(I)t is very clear that in fundamental theory, socialism and democracy are almost, if not quite, one and the same. They both rest at bottom upon the absolute right of the community to determine its own destiny and that of its members. Men as communities are supreme over men as individuals.
Woodrow Wilson got that idea by observing Bismarck’s “state socialism”, which was one of the things that eventually gave birth to national socialism. Also interesting that he declared democracy to be the same thing as socialism, and that democracy thus was fundamentally anti-individualism in this same context.
7 posted on 06/27/2020 10:10:47 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: neverevergiveup

Your description of Marx is much like that of a stereotypical millennial in university.


8 posted on 06/27/2020 10:17:23 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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Looking at Marx’s time in college, it’s not hard to come to such a conclusion. His last university was the University of Jena, where he got his doctorate; he was heavily influenced by Hegelian dialectics, giving it a “materialist” spin.


9 posted on 06/27/2020 10:45:07 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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“Your description of Marx is much like that of a stereotypical millennial in university.”

I'm curious why you would say this. Millenials are taught that Marx was a visionary philosopher who developed a new economic theory. He was nothing of the sort. He was actually very limited, and his father was worried he wouldn't make it in the world, precisely because he did so poorly in every formal setting he was in. Like all of us, he probably had some significant talents, but they clearly weren't in economics, political science, or philosophy. Clearly, he resented his father, and the fact that his father was successful in the society of the time was a huge driver of Karl's desire to destroy that system.

I believe strongly in overlooking peoples faults, and that we are all flawed, but I can't tolerate narcissistic pinheads like Marx. His emotionally derived and hateful theories led to the suffering and/or deaths of millions. One has to be laughably stupid to support the drivel that is the legacy of intellectually challenged and pissed off Karl.

10 posted on 06/27/2020 10:45:58 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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And the scumbags from BLM and anQUEEFa are avowed marxists and BDSholes oblivious to Marx’ utter contempt for Africans and others he considered inferior. No wonder why they want to burn down the system. Those who fail to learn from history.....


11 posted on 06/27/2020 10:50:02 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (Virtue signalling is no virtue)
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“Those who fail to learn from history.....”

Hate blinds, and they clearly can’t see.


12 posted on 06/27/2020 10:54:55 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: Fred Hayek

“Your description of Marx is much like that of a stereotypical millennial in university.”

Just re-read your response, and finally got it. Yes, you are right, a lot of university millennials fit the same immature mindset of lazy but self-convinced Mr. Marx.


13 posted on 06/27/2020 10:57:29 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: Repeal 16-17

Mussolini now wanted to use and exploit capitalism rather than destroy it. But his was to be a radical revolution nonetheless, rooted in the pre-war ‘vanguard élite’ Marxism and syndicalism (workers’ rule) which was to remain to his death the most important single element in his politics.


Sound familiar?...this is exactly what is going on now.. the left has cooped big capitalism..

This and the left gonit to a race based revolution vs class based..with one race mow tagged as the enemy...

What going on yhe street is a Nazi Fascist movement in ever way but name


14 posted on 06/27/2020 11:14:01 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: neverevergiveup

This is like saying the hoax of the Elders of Zions and Nazi ideology itself which Nazis believed has nothing to do with 6 million dead jews.

Marx was a barely unconscious fascist whose wish was to become dictator of Europe, nough said


15 posted on 06/28/2020 1:39:02 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hatse:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: neverevergiveup
We still have time for commemorating the 165th birthday of Houston Stewart Chamberlain on September 5, the writer and thinker who I believe most influenced Der Fuhrers world view along with Ernst Haeckel.

In 1899 he published Die Grundlagen des neunzehnten Jahrhunderts (The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century, 2 vol., 1911), a broad but biased analysis of European culture, in which he claimed that the Western Aryan peoples have been responsible for the greatness and creativity of Europe, and that the Jewish influence has been primarily negative. Chamberlain’s theories owed much to the writings of Joseph Arthur, comte de Gobineau, who was the first to claim to prove the superiority of the “Nordic” race.

16 posted on 06/28/2020 1:59:22 AM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: Olog-hai

Angela Merkel graduated from the University of Karl Marx in Leipzig Germany.


17 posted on 06/28/2020 2:27:51 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Olog-hai

I look at celebrating Karl Marx as being as socially acceptable as celebrating Hitler. Juncker should be run out of his publicly-funded sinecure and forced to find honest work.


18 posted on 06/28/2020 2:32:19 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: tophat9000; neverevergiveup
There is no difference between national socialists (fascists-syndicalist) and anarcho socialist (anarchist-syndicalist) started by Max stirner very good friend of Marx.

Even Wikipedia (leftist sites) recognize this.
Remember the brown shirts used that color because De Vecchi already had black shirts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michele_Bianchi

There is a reason why people thought the fascists where "right wing" besides a grand conspiracy. .
Mussolini balanced the budget got the economy running good and so on. Which they're right his administration did but not for the reasons they believe.

Most believe Fascism is right wing(Classic liberal/conservative) Even the modern Nazi's believe it. That was because Alberto de' Stefani( laissez-faire capitalist) whom worked for Mussolini as his fiance minister. The bankers at the time forced Mussolini to take him in. Stefani did a fantastic job of cleaning up the debts and other financial issues as the bankers required for their credit to open. When his job was done he was fired on the spot by Mussolini. Stefani truly hated the fascists called them corrupted sons of bitches. Everyone ignores what Stefani did for the fascists.

19 posted on 06/28/2020 4:09:33 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: neverevergiveup
said "Marx is one of the few people who, if possible, I would go back in time to kill and rid the world of"

It wouldn't have changed history other then the Name "Marx"
Marx was inspired by Hegel. Hegel was motivated by the tyrant Queen Elisabeth I. If Henry VIII had a son hegelianism would've never started.

There were other hard leftist that took hegelianism seriously. Hegel called his idea Utopian meaning it can never work and he knew that.

20 posted on 06/28/2020 4:29:03 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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