Posted on 06/24/2020 7:43:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Back in the 1990s, I began asking a simple polling question that highlights a massive change in the way Americans view their country: Generally speaking, is American society fair and decent or is it unfair and discriminatory? In those long-ago days, voters overwhelmingly responded fair and decent, typically by a 2-to-1 margin.
Things are much different today. Polling I conducted this past weekend found that just 38% of voters nationwide believe our society is generally fair and decent. Nearly half (47%) believe our society is unfair and discriminatory. Thats consistent with data I cited a few weeks back showing that just 31% believe most Americans treat white and Black voters equally.
On this question, there is naturally a partisan divide. Sixty-two percent (62%) of Republicans say our society is fair and decent while 69% of Democrats take the opposite view. By a 45% to 31% margin, independent voters agree with the Democrats.
Not surprisingly, there is also a big racial divide on this question. White voters are evenly divided while 77% of Black voters say our society is unfair and discriminatory. Forty-nine percent (49%) of Hispanic voters agree.
This is a big deal in a country where the culture leads and politicians lag behind. Those who think that our society is fair and decent recognize that our nation is not perfect but tend to think only minor changes are needed. For those who believe society itself is unfair and discriminatory, the time has come to shake up the system and replace it with something better.
For some, the core issue may be income inequality. For most though, at this point in time, the core issue is racial inequality.
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RE: It includes a wide variety of behaviors, attitudes and imaginations
That’s the problem — people think racism is whatever they want it to mean including merely OBSERVING that other races have certain PHYSICAL features that are undeniable with anyone with eyes to see.
I still believe we should stick to the dictionary definition.
That certainly seems to be true based on actions and reality.
Is the "81 IQ" from the "Bell Curve" statistics?
I agree - but they won’t!
>>>Its especially troubling that 23% of Black voters nearly 1 in 4 dont believe that most Americans want racial equality<<<
They don’t want Racial Equality, they want Racial Superiority with their Race making the Rules.
If anyone believes the crap going on today will help Race Relations, they are smoking Crack.
“...Because the OUTCOMES are UNEQUAL .”
And that’s the problem!
What we really need are quotas (NOT REALLY hear me out on this!) and they’re enforced for everything. Since blacks are 13% of the population so 13% of the outcomes, INCLUDING SPORTS
I don’t think that would make them happy either!
I think it was Lincoln that something about a bad law where if passed should be enforced severely. That way everyone learns the lesson.
RE: Since blacks are 13% of the population so 13% of the outcomes,
Remember the Community Reinvestment Act and the Mortgage Crisis? We FORCED banks to give mortgages and loans to minorities ( yes, mostly blacks ) so that everyone ( regardless of income and ability to pay ) can afford to buy a house.
You know the rest of the story.
Positive discrimination (privilege) toward whites and negative discrimination (disadvantage) toward blacks are different sides of the same coin.
They both are the result of a group’s EARNED reputation based on reality.
Reality is that on AVERAGE whites have higher IQ, commit less crimes, are more conscientious than blacks. There are of course exceptions to that rule, but knowing nothing else about an individual it is human nature to initially judge that person based on his group. The old saying “you knew I was a snake before you took me in”.
So to the extent that there is some privilege in belonging to a particular group, it comes from the earned reputation of that group. For example, when it comes to sports blacks enjoy a privilege over whites.
If you want to change your group level of privileges you better put pressure on members of your own group to behave or perform better - ie, improve your group’s reputation.
This may or may not be feasible. If it’s not, the different groups probably won’t be able to peacefully coexist together,as we have been painfully witnessing for centuries and getting worse.
Just reality.
So, if a person ( regardless of race ) tells me to be extra careful if I were to walk or drive through the South Side of Chicago ( and we know its Demographics ), is it racist of him to tell me that?
I know.
Good example
And then “the political establishment & us (the voters)” lied to ourselves why things went bust!
“is it racist of him to tell me that?”
Yes, it’s racist AND correct.
It’s racist if racism is defined correctly.
Racism is simply recognizing certain reality based characteristic of a race. These characteristics could be positive or negative.
So you could say that saying that Chinese tend to be pretty smart is racist.
RE: Its racist if racism is defined correctly.
Racism is simply recognizing certain reality based characteristic of a race.
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But hang on.... I would not be told to be extra careful if I went to say Freeport, Long Island ( huge black middle class, home owning population ).
That observation on the South Side of Chicago is based more on STATISTICAL data, than race. I’d be told to be just as careful if I walked on the seedy side of Amsterdam in the Netherlands.
“Then the Rev. Jesse Jackson is also racist.”
Yes, he recognizes certain realities about his own race and the white race and when his life is in danger he takes those realities seriously and into account.
“But hang on.... I would not be told to be extra careful if I went to say Freeport, Long Island ( huge black middle class, home owning population ).”
That’s because that is not a random sample of the black population, but a self-selected specific subset of the population with qualities that differ significantly from the average.
If one could select only blacks with those characteristics to be in this country there would be no discrimination to speak of. But we are forbidden to do that - we have to take the whole population.
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