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Biden Takes Dominant Lead as Voters Reject Trump on Virus and Race
NYT ^ | June 24, 2020 | Alexander Burns, Jonathan Martin and Matt Stevens

Posted on 06/24/2020 4:53:34 AM PDT by Stravinsky

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To: nwrep

Dream on.
ABC Washington Post had Trump down 12% with just 2 weeks to go to the elections.
NBC had Hilary leading by 14 points with 28 days to go.
Trump still won comfortably in electoral votes. .


101 posted on 06/24/2020 6:32:52 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

Yes, late October was the first time Hillary cleared the 50% threshold. Biden did it in May this year. That is what people are pointing to as being different.


102 posted on 06/24/2020 6:36:24 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep

That exactly is the point of having a lot more money in the bank than the Biden campaign .You can afford to spend even in places that you will win. After all Trump just had his first rally in four months in Oklahoma which Trump will will win in a landslide.
You wanna try again?


103 posted on 06/24/2020 6:39:32 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Stravinsky

Biden is not Hillary. We shouldn’t dismiss this poll. The only clear line of attack we have on Biden is that he maybe senile. If he shows up in the debates and does not fall on his face, its going to be a tough task to beat him.


104 posted on 06/24/2020 6:41:52 AM PDT by krny9
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To: nwrep

Except that late October polls are supposed to be the closest to the real election results with no time for comeback. Trump still clobbered Hilary anyway.


105 posted on 06/24/2020 6:48:43 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: krny9

Biden is not Hilary. He is much worse.
The guy is barely coherent.


106 posted on 06/24/2020 6:50:59 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: nwrep

They should be investing the huge amount of campaign funds they’ve raised.

That said, the fact that President Trump has survived a bonafide coup attempt involving the FBI and CIA, a pandemic for which the economy was shut down for months, organized riots funded by those vested in removing him from office (including foreign and domestic nefarious sources), and a media that hates him and has lied repeatedly to try to destroy him, should tell you a lot about his strength as a candidate for reelection, and the strength of his base.

What is really telling is how the left have removed their masks (not the PPE kind) and are going all out to defeat Trump. They hate him, they fear him, and they know that he has a really good chance of being reelected.


107 posted on 06/24/2020 6:54:33 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: Stravinsky

Are we really suppose to believe this????
They need to try harder!


108 posted on 06/24/2020 7:02:33 AM PDT by bantam
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To: SmokingJoe

Yes, he rambles on. But remember that he outlasted all the other dem contenders with all his drawbacks. Not being coherent is not a big issue for the dem electorate. An easily mainpulated senile old guy may not be a bad thing in many people’s mind.


109 posted on 06/24/2020 7:03:35 AM PDT by krny9
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To: The Sons of Liberty

They didnt vote for him in 16 and not doing it now.
He will pick off some soccer moms and others who now need security


110 posted on 06/24/2020 7:06:55 AM PDT by italianquaker
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To: Stravinsky

Well, that’s it! Might as well start the right-wing Civil War II now. The hero is in the White House, the evildoers are in Congress! Light a fire under your senators and congresscritters.


111 posted on 06/24/2020 7:08:14 AM PDT by yardboyd (Call me a rose.... or leave me alone.)
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To: nwrep

Trump wins easily, funny everybody says the media lies but believes the medias polls not


112 posted on 06/24/2020 7:08:19 AM PDT by italianquaker
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To: SmokingJoe

Again that’s one poll. Others showed it way closer. The AVERAGE of polls at this point is double what Hillary. It’s not the same as 2016.


113 posted on 06/24/2020 7:08:24 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative

No way he can debate.


114 posted on 06/24/2020 7:11:12 AM PDT by John W (Trump/Pence 2020)
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To: Stravinsky

Alexander Burns, Jonathan Martin and Matt Stevens = Fake Inc.


115 posted on 06/24/2020 7:18:29 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: krny9
He didn't outlast anybody. The DNC kneecapped Bernie Sanders. Biden underperformed in every single primary until the DNC pressured everyone to withdraw apart from Sanders, then got everyone to endorse Biden.
Biden couldn't win sh*t without it being handed to him.
Trump is not handing nuthin’ to Joe Dementia.
116 posted on 06/24/2020 7:19:43 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Toespi
Early cover for the improbable win of Joe Biden through massive voter fraud.

You hit the nail on the head.

117 posted on 06/24/2020 7:22:39 AM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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To: exDemMom
...At least in the Trump economy, with his tireless efforts to deregulate, people are free to develop alternate means of doing business and have been doing so. A controlled socialist economy would have crashed and burned under the pressure of the pandemic...

100% correct about the deregulation. I believe this leads to the US taking business away from the rest of the developed world. Our economy will bounce back much faster than Europe.

A second issue is that the campaign has not even started yet. A lot will happen between now and November. Polls before the conventions are worthless.

118 posted on 06/24/2020 7:25:02 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Sgain it wasn’t one poll.
Look at #39 and #44.
#39 was directed to you I believe.
2016 was less than 4 years ago.
We were all alive then.
And the internet has a long memory.
I could bring you a very long list of polls and articles like this one, between June and October 2016 which had Hilary winning in a landslide. Plus plenty of youtube videos from CNN ABC NBC CBS etc from 2016 which predicted a massive win for Hilary. Virtually no one thought Trump had a chance. Outside of one or two people that is.
This NYT article is not exactly new.


119 posted on 06/24/2020 7:30:04 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Stravinsky

I don’t know a single person who voted for Trump who isn’t planning to do so again. Quite the opposite, in fact, they are all more determined than ever. How that translates into a 14 point lead without the use of LSD or 20 million fraudulent ballots, I don’t know.


120 posted on 06/24/2020 7:34:48 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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