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Confederate base names stir tensions over America's dark past
BBC ^ | 11 June 2020 | Jonathan Marcus

Posted on 06/11/2020 8:18:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

This week, if there had been no pandemic, I would have been on leave, heading for Gettysburg in Pennsylvania - the site of the famous battle in the American Civil War of 1861-65.

For some reason this conflict captured my interest as a child. I've always wanted to attend the Gettysburg College Civil War Institute's annual summer school. Sadly, that has been cancelled this year because of Covid-19.

On frequent trips to the States, I used to buy a historical magazine about the war whose masthead slogan proclaimed: "For those who still hear the sound of the guns."

This reference to the echoes of the conflict through the ages is, I think, why the war still fascinates me today.

As the Black Lives Matter movement demonstrates, for many Americans there is still unfinished business from the Civil War years.

The benefits of black emancipation were partial and never fully realised. Oppression, disproportionate poverty and racism continue to this day, more than 150 years after the conflict ended.

Other Americans who still hold to the myths about "the old South" take a very different view. And then there are the hardcore right-wing and racist militias, who freely use the symbols of the Confederacy to symbolise their own cause.

Indeed, the Civil War is rarely out of the news, be it for controversy over statues commemorating Confederate leaders or famous generals or, most recently, for the long-standing naming of a small number of US military bases after rebel commanders.

In the wake of George Floyd's killing and the wave of protests that have followed, the questioning of the visibility of the Confederate's public heritage has reached a new intensity.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
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Says the former Colonial Empire.
1 posted on 06/11/2020 8:18:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m a Yankee who was fortunate enough to live most of my adult life immersed in the history of this great Commonwealth of Virginia.
I have donated thousands to preserve battlefields all over the country.

I take this tyrannical Taliban-like history erasing personally.


2 posted on 06/11/2020 8:21:41 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

These reruns bore me. “New intensity”... it’s the same garbage from 2015 and 2017.


3 posted on 06/11/2020 8:21:48 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I was told by someone years ago who traveled to Europe extensively that if I wanted to see racism, go to Europe.


4 posted on 06/11/2020 8:23:39 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (There's a stairway to heaven, but there's also a highway to hell.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

So do I.


5 posted on 06/11/2020 8:24:08 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed the Communist Revolution would arrive disguised as the common cold?)
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And then there are the hardcore right-wing and racist militias, who freely use the symbols of the Confederacy to symbolise their own cause.

Oh, what BS!

Where? All about 10 people.

I wonder why the Left makes such a boogeyman about so-called Right-wing militias while actual live, real-time Left wing Antifa militias are out and about making actual autonomous zones in the heart of our cities.

Could the BBC be any less lame?

6 posted on 06/11/2020 8:26:04 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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er... MORE lame.


7 posted on 06/11/2020 8:26:33 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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Where? All about 10 people.

And half of them are FBI informants.

8 posted on 06/11/2020 8:27:04 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You mean like England’s “golden past?”


9 posted on 06/11/2020 8:27:34 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Shall we get rid of the pictures of dead presidents on our currency too? Actually the currency itself is a symbol of discrimination. Why not just rid of wealth altogether? Let’s just get rid of civilization.


10 posted on 06/11/2020 8:33:18 PM PDT by oldbrowser (The government did not create the people. The people created the government)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

For over 150 years no one had a problem with battle flags, statues or military base names, until someone decided to make it a problem.


11 posted on 06/11/2020 8:35:09 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Tell me Brit, all about modern American oppression of blacks!


12 posted on 06/11/2020 8:38:09 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: headstamp 2

No. Go to Japan.


13 posted on 06/11/2020 8:40:33 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“dark past”

Nope. No bias there.


14 posted on 06/11/2020 8:41:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of And justfact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

This is ALL coming right out of our universities, if we don’t start taking back our education systems this will get worse we need to defund these universities PERIOD!!


15 posted on 06/11/2020 8:42:45 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: oldbrowser

They were already supposed to supplant Jackson with PC Harriet Tubman this very year.


16 posted on 06/11/2020 8:42:55 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

You guys keep blaming colleges.

It is MUCH worse than that, it is insidiously long through all forced lower education. Never mind the parents who have these self-righteous views.


17 posted on 06/11/2020 8:45:08 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

IMO, these Leftists think they are striking at the heart of President Trump’s base destroying statues, history and names in the South. They are making stereotypical assumptions/generalizations about HIS base. They do not seem to realize just how many of us there are and where we are.

Sure hope people have some of the history hidden somewhere.

They are acting like pre WWII Germany.


18 posted on 06/11/2020 8:45:22 PM PDT by madison10
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Britain’s “dark past” was 20x worse. Ask a few ghosts of headless rulers.


19 posted on 06/11/2020 8:52:27 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Caveat Emperor)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A,erica’s? How about democrats?


20 posted on 06/11/2020 8:56:13 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hatse:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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