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Lawsuit: Deed prevents Lee statue's removal; Northam says 'divisive' monument 'needs to come down'
Richmond Times Dispatch ^ | 6/9/20 | BY JUSTIN MATTINGLY

Posted on 06/09/2020 3:05:46 PM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey

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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

those determined to deny and forget their history are destined to repeat it.

Te reason we have such monuments is to make sure the tragedy
remains in public, in the mind and to provoke discourse about the causes and mourn the consequences from one generation to the next.

Northam is an illiterate, foolish ape of a man-in his hubris and stupidity a danger to our children and grandchildren


21 posted on 06/09/2020 3:25:09 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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To: Howie66

Blackface Northam needs to come down.


22 posted on 06/09/2020 3:25:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

Only if we outlaw the political party that gave us the civil war, slavery, segregation, Jim Crow, and welfare queens.


23 posted on 06/09/2020 3:25:55 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

Good or bad, it’s part of our nation’s history and can’t just be erased.


24 posted on 06/09/2020 3:27:25 PM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: ActresponsiblyinVA

Excellent points for us to discuss. But this means nothing to these radicals who desire to cleanse our history.

In their black/white views of history, Robert E. Lee fought to sustain slavery. Thus in their view, he was a worthless human being. The structure of society at the time means nothing to them. In their views, any caucasian historic figure who didn’t have a 21st century politically correct worldview is a worthless individual, best consigned to the scrap heap of history.


25 posted on 06/09/2020 3:27:27 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Howie66

Let the hypocrite racist be hoisted on his own retard petard.


26 posted on 06/09/2020 3:27:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

anyone know who donated the land and how big of a parcel?


27 posted on 06/09/2020 3:34:43 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: ealgeone

100 statues of northam in blackface or kkk toga should be constantly driven around richmond on flatbeds as a reminder of how woke the governor is.


28 posted on 06/09/2020 3:35:30 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

There will never be a statue of Ralph ‘The Coonman’ Northam to take down.


29 posted on 06/09/2020 3:35:55 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Starboard
Laws don’t mean anything to Democrats. They’ll just remove it.

Northam: We don't need no stinkin' badges. Or warrants.

30 posted on 06/09/2020 3:36:18 PM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote fraud,harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: RummyChick

family donated land

remove the statute then they should get the land back. i would like to know how big the parcel is

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-blocks-removal-richmond-robert-e-lee-statue-10-days-n1228261


31 posted on 06/09/2020 3:37:14 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

https://www.styleweekly.com/richmond/once-one-statue-comes-down-who-owns-the-land/Content?oid=16125147

Real estate investor Otway S. Allen and his sisters, Bettie F. Allen Gregory and Martha Allen Wilson, donated the circle of land with a radius of 100 feet to the state for the statue, according to the March 17, 1890, deed in Henrico County, transcribed on the Library of Virginia website. Allen Avenue, the cross street to Monument at the circle, is named for the family.

The officers of the Lee Monument Association also signed the deed, donating the statue itself, which it had funded. P.W. McKinney, the then-governor, signed in acceptance on the part of the state. He also signed in donation as president of the association.


32 posted on 06/09/2020 3:39:23 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Sacajaweau
There's a difference between a discriminatory deed and one that the state freely entered into accepting perpetual responsibility for a monument.

(Northram's counsel) "Davis said Northam's decision to move forward with the effort to remove the statue takes Virginia "a step closer to reclaiming the truth of Virginia's history" for all Virginians"

Reconciliation doesn't matter to them. Robert E. Lee commanded the Army of Northern Virginia. He was on the losing side but that's still THE TRUTH. Put up a statue depicting Virginia's history as a slave state on this monument avenue. Removing Lee is a coward's way. You're not confronting the history in the state, the reconciliation between the states, or the 130 year history since the statue was unveiled if you make it disappear like an inconvenience.

33 posted on 06/09/2020 3:41:16 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Vote Giant Meteor in 2020)
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To: RummyChick

this one says 200 feet radius

https://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/watch-now-lawsuit-deed-prevents-lee-statues-removal-northam-says-divisive-monument-needs-to-come/article_ab073021-aea5-55f0-96e4-c8ccc47cd361.html


34 posted on 06/09/2020 3:42:45 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: 17th Miss Regt
The deed may specify that if the monument is not treated in accordance with the deed the piece of land reverts to the family. If so, the governor will probably let that happen.

If he attempts to remove it, he's in breech, and the property is no longer the state's. It immediately returns to the descendants of the family, who won't remove it.

So no, he's checkmated regarding removal.

35 posted on 06/09/2020 3:45:45 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

The law means nothing to these people. Especially Gov blackface. They will just claim the original deed was ‘racist” and use that to justify ignoring it.


36 posted on 06/09/2020 3:46:49 PM PDT by nhbob1
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To: Dilbert San Diego
In their views, any caucasian historic figure who didn’t have a 21st century politically correct worldview is a worthless individual, best consigned to the scrap heap of history.

Wait till they find out what Lincoln thought about race.

37 posted on 06/09/2020 3:48:06 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: 11th_VA
"Wow - I hope the court agrees with what is plainly written ..."

If not, the heirs of the land that was deeded should reclaim tittle on failure to honor the covenant.

38 posted on 06/09/2020 3:57:18 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Fine.

The the family can put up a bigger, shinier statue of General Lee, perhaps holding a Confederate battle flag, with other bronze Confederates: Generals Jackson, Early, Pickett, Hood, and Longstreet.

Make sure it is heavily guarded by security.


39 posted on 06/09/2020 4:06:26 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Monuments to Washington and Jefferson will be next.


40 posted on 06/09/2020 4:13:07 PM PDT by ActresponsiblyinVA
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