Okay, now you've really got me confused. I did not quote anything at all from the Letter to Horace Greeley, I did quote from Lincoln's first inaugural, which is what I assumed you were referring to. I mentioned the letter to Horace Greeley, but I did not quote anything from it at all. So instead of your accusation of "In true democrat form, you left out the last line of his letter...", you should have said "You didn't quote any part of his letter at all!"
That would have been accurate. Saying "In true democrat form, you left out the last line of his letter..." is completely inaccurate because it implies I quoted something from this letter, which I did not, at least not in the message to which you are responding.
So is it "true Democrat form..." to accuse someone of something they didn't do?
He was there. He lived in the south as a slave, and he was freed as a result of the Civil War.
So his experience made him an expert on Lincoln? It's my recollection that Lincoln had disdain for Frederick Douglas, so i'm not sure Lincoln would have been confiding in him regarding his plans or intentions.
We people who lived later can often get a better picture of events than the participants because we can see information they did not have available to them at the time. Like the financial records showing how much Southern trade caused to flow into the US Treasury, as well as into the pockets of Lincolns "Robber Barons" in New York City.
Why should I believe you?
You shouldn't. I never ask anyone to believe anything on my word alone. I constantly urge them to read the histories I point out to them, and think for themselves rather than just parroting the propaganda we've all been taught our entire lives.
Anyone who believes something simply on someone else's say so is a fool.
That you cherry pick what suits your beliefs? That's true IMHO. That I got the speeches you referenced crossed? I'll take your word for it.
So his experience made him an expert on Lincoln? It's my recollection that Lincoln had disdain for Frederick Douglas, so i'm not sure Lincoln would have been confiding in him regarding his plans or intentions.
Where do you get that? Abraham Lincoln Meets Frederick Douglass.
We people who lived later can often get a better picture of events than the participants because we can see information they did not have available to them at the time.
Where do you think the information we look at now came from? From the people who lived through it.
Like the financial records showing how much Southern trade caused to flow into the US Treasury, as well as into the pockets of Lincolns "Robber Barons" in New York City.
So what? You keep throwing that around as if it proves anything. I get it. Everyone in the north was not for abolition. That was what President Lincoln had to deal with when he was elected in 1860. Frederick Douglass, who had no reason to trust whites, understood this.
It doesn't prove anything. When it was all over, slavery was abolished by the positive actions of President Lincoln and the Republicans.
You shouldn't. I never ask anyone to believe anything on my word alone. I constantly urge them to read the histories I point out to them, and think for themselves rather than just parroting the propaganda we've all been taught our entire lives.
I doubt you and I agree on what is the propaganda, but Kudos to you for challenging others to research for themselves.