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George Floyd had ‘violent criminal history’: Minneapolis police union chief
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| June 2, 2020 | 12:04pm | Updated
| Kate Sheehy
Posted on 06/02/2020 10:08:52 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: Bob434
They agree on homicide. Baden says asphyxiation, the examiner cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdural, restraint, and neck compression. He's charged with 3rd degree murder and manslaughter. I'm not a lawyer, but my guess willful disregard would support a manslaughter charge. Reckless endangerment would support both. If the prosecution feels it can prove willful intent to kill, you'll see the charges upgraded to first or second degree. Though the autopsies claim different cause of death, both rule it a homicide caused by law enforcement restraint, which is the important issue.
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posted on
06/02/2020 12:00:26 PM PDT
by
SJackson
(Suppose you were an idiot, suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself, Mark Twain)
To: gibsonguy
To: blueunicorn6
Well since we are back in second grade, “I’m rubber, your glue.....”
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posted on
06/02/2020 12:01:44 PM PDT
by
Sir_Humphrey
(Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people -Socrates)
To: gibsonguy
But then teachers are very seldom gunned down at 2AM while “in unform”.Yes,this guy could just be another hack union boss.But it’s also possible that he knows more about this case than we do.
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posted on
06/02/2020 12:02:39 PM PDT
by
Gay State Conservative
(The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
To: RWGinger
That does not change that the policeman killed him.
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In this country, we do not go directly from video to sentence. Whether the cop killed him, or if he did, whether it was intentional or negligent, is to be determined at trial.
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posted on
06/02/2020 12:02:48 PM PDT
by
Socon-Econ
(adical Islam,)
To: SJackson
The updated report states that on May 25, George Floyd experienced a cardiopulmonary arrest while being restrained by a law enforcement officer(s).
The new Medical Examiners report also notes other significant conditions such as arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication; and recent methamphetamine use.
From post 133
Again- Asphyxiation claim vs no asphyxiation claim will play a huge role in intent or no intent- The new report points out other conditions that could have either contributed, or been responsible for the death- it is important to know whether the knee caused asphyxiation or not- heart problems, and opioid use- especially when mixed drugs are used, often lead to heart attack, which woudl lead to brain death too-
baden is claiming the cop asphyxiated him- the first report does not claim that-
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posted on
06/02/2020 12:05:54 PM PDT
by
Bob434
To: shelterguy
If meth use has been scientifically proven that's quite significant IMO.
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posted on
06/02/2020 12:07:14 PM PDT
by
Gay State Conservative
(The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
To: RWGinger
That does not change that the policeman killed him.Hmmm? I must have missed that trial? Or do you mean that Floyd was allegedly killed be the policeman?
To: Gay State Conservative
The toxicology report said meth plus fentanyl intoxication.
Not a good combo.
To: Gay State Conservative
fentanyl use will be significant as well- especially considering george had two serious heart problems, plus blogged arteries- it’s the number 1 opioid killer I believe- He was already complaining that he couldn’t breath- there’s a chance he was dying from the drugs and heart problems before he was even cuffed- the defense will bring this out in court-
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posted on
06/02/2020 12:11:18 PM PDT
by
Bob434
To: shelterguy
Meth in the blood? Knowing this I,as a juror,would find this very significant.With this info I just might be receptive to a defense argument “the deceased was acting strangely,aggressively,in a threatening manner.My client was fearful for his safety and the safety of others”.
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posted on
06/02/2020 12:15:29 PM PDT
by
Gay State Conservative
(The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
To: Bob434
Yes,that's true.Meth would be connected to possible aggression (and cardiac issues) and fentanyl would be connected to cardiac issues.
Underlying heart disease + meth + fentanyl often ends badly...even when you're not under arrest.
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posted on
06/02/2020 12:18:39 PM PDT
by
Gay State Conservative
(The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
To: The Toll
Standing on a guys neck for 8 minutes is though. Your attempts to spin the murder on video into something else are hopeless.
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So now the cop was “standing” on St. Floyd’s neck, not just placing his knee on it. Next, they’ll have him digging his heel into it.
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posted on
06/02/2020 12:20:47 PM PDT
by
Socon-Econ
(adical Islam,)
To: Bob434
I know. He was intoxicated and violent when arrested. But the cause of death, whether the primary was asphyxiation or cardiac arrest, was caused by law enforcement restraint. That’s what the trial will be about. Now having two autopsies agreeing on homicide, I doubt the jury will be hearing much speculation that he coincidentally died of a heart attack or drug overdose, not caused by police restraint.
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posted on
06/02/2020 12:20:57 PM PDT
by
SJackson
(Suppose you were an idiot, suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself, Mark Twain)
To: Just mythoughts
I don't require anything.
I'm not the one insisting on protecting bad apples at all costs.
Even after they're caught on live video from 6 feet away keeping their knee on the neck of a handcuffed man lying down in the street, after their own fellow policeman told them he doesn't have a pulse.
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posted on
06/02/2020 12:25:21 PM PDT
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
To: ConservativeInPA
Sorry, George Floyds violent criminal history is not relevant. ....
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Hope you say the same when St. Floyd’s supporters make unproved statements about the cop’s prior record.
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posted on
06/02/2020 12:25:41 PM PDT
by
Socon-Econ
(adical Islam,)
To: grey_whiskers
Elected officials covered up for the bad apples... the purpose now is to completely destroy law and order, there will soon be the image that all cops are bad... this bad apple had a long history of being bad... why was he never prosecuted? Since the antifa attorney general is personally going to handle this case, be prepared for police to be on trial...
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posted on
06/02/2020 12:34:13 PM PDT
by
Just mythoughts
(Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
To: conservative98
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posted on
06/02/2020 12:39:36 PM PDT
by
Ann Archy
(Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
To: RWGinger
No it doesn’t...but the DEMOCRATS have adopted him to STEAL and DESTROY BILLIONS and BILLIONS OF DOLLARS!!!
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posted on
06/02/2020 12:42:05 PM PDT
by
Ann Archy
(Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
To: Socon-Econ
Under Minnesota state law 3rd degree murder does not require intent.
It does require Depraved Indifference.
I think that keeping your knee on the neck of a handcuffed, lying down on the ground man in your custody, with two other officers holding down his legs, for a full two minutes after one of the other officers on the scene tells you he has no pulse, on an unedited video taken on the scene from six feet away, and in front of witnesses, qualifies.
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posted on
06/02/2020 12:50:02 PM PDT
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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