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CDC: Antibody test results are often wrong and should not be relied on
www.businessinsider.com ^ | 5/27/2020 | Shira Feder

Posted on 05/27/2020 11:54:28 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19

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To: RummyChick

lemmings rule the world


21 posted on 05/27/2020 12:11:42 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19 (Game over, man! Game over! ; : rem ad triarios redisse is)
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To: RomanSoldier19

CDC = Crappy Decisions Continuously.


22 posted on 05/27/2020 12:12:15 PM PDT by moovova
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To: livius

[[So why bother reopening the country, getting our civil rights back, etc? Everybody around you is a walking lethal threat no matter what.]]

they are conditioning low info people to believe this- that is why you saw staten islanders screaming at a woman in a store not wearing a mask- the government has conditioned these low info peeps to believe that everyone not wearing a mask is a lethal walking biohazard leaving piles of bodies behind them as they walk through life without a mask

you see it everywhere now- people are scared to death that someone without a mask will cause them to become infected and die- you see people glancing at unmasked folks, shaking their heads in disgust- and we’re just a step away as a nation from people ratting on people not wearing masks- The ones doing the reporting believing they are doing humanity a ser4vice-

It’s not hard to see how the Nazis brainwashed everyone to rat on others- on friends, family even- We thought ‘oh that could never happen here in the US- we know better than the Germans did- we’d never allow that to happen here’- yet here we are- folks ratting on others for simply not weariness a mask in outdoor places even- You even have governors setting up hotlines for people to rat on others-

How quickly people become complaint to a dictatorship like the left when the opportunities present themselves to do- there are just so many people unfortunately that would- and are infact, trading away their rights just to be complaint with government rule-


23 posted on 05/27/2020 12:13:04 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: HollyB

“Ve haf ways of.... determining your infection level.... UND you vill beleef US!, or Else! pfft!”.

The real anti-social socialists of medicine. Their name says it all ......CD.... CONTROL. Oh yeah? how do you “control” a disease without viable testing. So... you control us rather, with your “scientific” greta thunberg retard “face” of “science”... by consensus. Which science, real science has never been a consensus-— it can not be, and be supportable.


24 posted on 05/27/2020 12:14:08 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Everybody stay fearful until Trump is out of office... and not even then.


25 posted on 05/27/2020 12:14:34 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: RomanSoldier19

And of course their Wuhan virus test is perfect


26 posted on 05/27/2020 12:16:35 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Of course these antibody tests shouldn’t be relied on, when these numbers are added to the mixture, it lowers the death rate percentage to that of the flu...LESS THAN 1%


27 posted on 05/27/2020 12:16:58 PM PDT by Artcore (Trump 2020!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Liberals — “TESTING, TESTING, TESTING....WE NEED MORE TESTING!!!! Trump failed because he didn’t test.”

CDS — “testing is useless.”


28 posted on 05/27/2020 12:17:26 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: RomanSoldier19
Business Insider also had an article claiming Neil Ferguson had saved the world!

Neil Ferguson Transformed Uk Covid Response
29 posted on 05/27/2020 12:18:15 PM PDT by 100%FEDUP (I'm seeing RED!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Testing is SO USELESS my God these people are just idiots you get the test and 20 minutes later you can become infected WTH are these idiots even talking about!!


30 posted on 05/27/2020 12:19:37 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: RomanSoldier19

yes, some antibody tests aren’t very accurate for a number of reasons and the buyer should certainly be aware.

but actually, we have blood antibody tests for many infectious diseases (covid19 appears to be one of these at, least for some tests on the market) that are very good and can be relied on as useful data for epidemic decision making purposes. especially if confirmatory tests exist for the same person.

it depends on the skill and experience of the reference lab handling the validation of the test, the training of the med tech getting the sample, the skills and experience of the lab people running the test, and the quality of the private vendor’s design and development of the kits and machine for the highest possible accuracy (sensitivity and specificity).

after that, of course, the quality and honesty of the statistical study using even an accurate test becomes the most important factor for application to health policy. unfortunately, that part of it is usually in the hands of so called “experts.”


31 posted on 05/27/2020 12:23:43 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: RomanSoldier19

I predicted this was going to be the new mantra as soon as I read about the antibody study in Santa Clara and LA counties over a month ago. It showed the number of infected to be very high and that didn’t fit the narrative of the left, so antibody testing has been SQUASHED!


32 posted on 05/27/2020 12:27:57 PM PDT by a real Sheila (Love my golden retrievers!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Yawn.

Tomorrow, it will be recommended as “better than nothing”.


33 posted on 05/27/2020 12:30:17 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: RomanSoldier19

The problem with the SARS-CoV-2 antibody tests is they were developed and released with close to no oversight whatsoever. It was an overreaction to their failure on the initial COVID-19 tests, where they didn’t let anyone build working test kits and the CDC test kits were delayed and broken. So when it came time to develop antibody testing, the CDC basically told everyone to do whatever they wanted and so everyone and their brother threw together a “test”.

There’s something like 60 different antibody tests out there. The worst of those is wrong up to half the time. Most aren’t that bad, but without any oversight or independent testing, it’s a complete mess trying to figure out how good a particular test is.

This is a story about the CDC bungling two different kinds of tests in two different ways. It has nothing to do with any inherent problem with antibody testing.


34 posted on 05/27/2020 12:33:57 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: HollyB; All
"Wrong 5%"

Why is CDC seemingly generalizing that all manufactures are making junk antibody tests when at least one manufacture has distinguished itself for its accurate tests?

Demand Surges For Abbott Labs Rapid Coronavirus Test As New Data Support Accuracy

Send "Orange Man Bad" federal and state government Democrats and RINOs home in November!

Supporting PDJT with new patriot federal and state government leaders that will promise to fully support his already excellent work for MAGA and stopping SARS-CoV-2 will effectively give fast-working Trump a "third term" in office imo.

35 posted on 05/27/2020 12:37:28 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

I don’t think that’s an antibody test.


36 posted on 05/27/2020 12:39:58 PM PDT by jjotto (“Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.”)
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To: a real Sheila

You’ve got it wrong. The Santa Clara County, Los Angeles County, and Major League Baseball (front and back office, not athlete) testing shows the prevalence of the disease to be VERY low in the population. As I recall, it was under 1% in MLB and less than 3% for LA and Santa Clara.


37 posted on 05/27/2020 12:41:35 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ImpBill

“The CDC is often wrong!”

The test itself is more accurate than the CDC.

The CDC is useless and should be shut down! Their one job was to prepare for a pandemic and we all know how that turned out.


38 posted on 05/27/2020 12:43:20 PM PDT by dgbrown
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To: OKSooner

the only right answers are the ones that require more lockdowns

btw...why are we not hearing about how the summer heat will help? like seriously, no one is saying that.

is that yet another reason why this virus is different from all others we know of?


39 posted on 05/27/2020 12:43:21 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: RomanSoldier19

Is there any data to support this conclusion? What is the false negative and false positive rate?


40 posted on 05/27/2020 12:43:43 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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