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Coronavirus uses same strategy as HIV to dodge immune response, Chinese study finds
South China Morning Post ^ | 27 May 2020 | Stephen Chen

Posted on 05/26/2020 8:50:55 PM PDT by amorphous

The novel coronavirus uses the same strategy to evade attack from the human immune system as HIV, according to a new study by Chinese scientists.

Both viruses remove marker molecules on the surface of an infected cell that are used by the immune system to identify invaders, the researchers said in a non-peer reviewed paper posted on preprint website bioRxiv.org on Sunday. They warned that this commonality could mean Sars-CoV-2, the clinical name for the virus, could be around for some time, like HIV.

Virologist Zhang Hui and a team from Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzhou also said their discovery added weight to clinical observations that the coronavirus was showing “some characteristics of viruses causing chronic infection”.

(Excerpt) Read more at scmp.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aids; bioweapon; coronavirus; covid19; gainoffunction
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To: amorphous

China has scientists of great knowlege as does the rest of the world and in particular the USA and Western Europe.

Their basic research is to be trusted unless it has political implications as does this Covid Pandemic. On this they are simply damn liars.

The few researchers in China that spoke the truth have been “disappeared.” I hope they are alive but doubt it. If they are alive, in the future they can expose the lies. I think they are dead. It will be as if they never existed.


21 posted on 05/26/2020 9:54:59 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, old man, CONSTITUTION TO DIE FOR)
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To: cpdiii

Agree. For the most part, those in government lie. Look at our Democratic party for an example.


22 posted on 05/26/2020 9:58:46 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous

Bodies laying on the street in third world countries is normal.

Brazil has a population over 200m. 20k deaths is not even a rounding error. If the final toll is 50 times higher than that even, it will still amount to all of a half percent of their population.

Get out of fear mode. This was never a killer virus.


23 posted on 05/26/2020 10:05:03 PM PDT by thoughtomator (here comes the switch to Hillary)
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To: catnipman

Re the Coronavirus evasion strategy. Now you know why, in Red China, they call it “The Wu Han Flew and Evasion Virus”.


24 posted on 05/26/2020 10:15:10 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: thoughtomator

i wonder how many folks the chinese decided to purge, under the guise of ‘coronavirus’


25 posted on 05/26/2020 10:15:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: catnipman

10 points for using the word “panoply”


26 posted on 05/26/2020 10:17:51 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: amorphous

This is not so surprising when you consider very informed people are saying that a segment of RNA from the AIDS virus seems to be grafted into the Wuhan Corona Virus

(BREAKING) NOBEL PRIZE WINNING SCIENTIST: CORONAVIRUS WAS LEAKED FROM A CHINESE LABORATORY AND HAS HIV DNA (WATCH)
https://rairfoundation.com/breaking-nobel-prize-winning-scientist-coronavirus-was-leaked-from-a-chinese-laboratory-and-has-hiv-dna-watch/

And if you think this is breathless conspiracy stuff..

Put on your coffee and read this..

Lab-Made? SARS-CoV-2 Genealogy Through the Lens of Gain-of-Function Research
https://medium.com/@yurideigin/lab-made-cov2-genealogy-through-the-lens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748


27 posted on 05/26/2020 10:30:21 PM PDT by dalight
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To: amorphous

LOL


28 posted on 05/27/2020 12:25:33 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: riri

We routinely screen with a combo antigen & antibody combo test. Ive been testing with it since 2011.


29 posted on 05/27/2020 2:20:51 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: GOPJ

Well the CCP still refuses to share any of its data on this virus

What’s odd is that so many nations have gone to stupid and useless lock downs of healthy people in order to fight a disease

Please don’t refer to asymptomatic transmission. There is no evidence that this is true.


30 posted on 05/27/2020 4:01:30 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

HIV and SARS


31 posted on 05/27/2020 4:38:27 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru Him all things are possible.)
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To: thoughtomator

If it apparently was not a big deal, why then did the CCP shut down entire huge cities?

Didn’t the dying also happen in NYC area, Italy and Spain and is it of control in Brazil right now?


32 posted on 05/27/2020 4:43:49 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: chris37

Now they say it’s running wild in Brazil. Is that real? No idea.
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However, there _is_ real, intensely active hatred against Bolsonaro.

But POTUS shut down travel from Brazil. An excess of caution?


33 posted on 05/27/2020 5:01:09 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: amorphous

Coronavirus uses same strategy as HIV to dodge immune response


Just as it was designed to do.


34 posted on 05/27/2020 5:57:23 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: amorphous

Chinese junk science designed to keep the fear going. If this bit of junk science were really true, people couldn’t recover.


35 posted on 05/27/2020 5:57:45 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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To: reformedliberal

I don’t know. I know that President Trump obviously knows more than we do on what exactly is going on at any given location, and I do trust him, but I just don’t know about the veracity of any reports on covid from anywhere. There’s been so much lying and head games in this matter.


36 posted on 05/27/2020 6:39:07 AM PDT by chris37 (China's Gift wasn't born in a bowl of bat soup.)
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To: momincombatboots

Oh, yeah, I am behind the times there. And it looks like results much quicker these days. Didn’t it used to take something like 6 months to be able to detect the antibodies?


37 posted on 05/27/2020 7:37:54 AM PDT by riri (If people still dropping, most aint shopping.)
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To: hawkaw

To suppress dissent, which was spreading fast due to what was going on in Hong Kong.


38 posted on 05/27/2020 8:35:33 AM PDT by thoughtomator (here comes the switch to Hillary)
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To: Nifster

When the lock downs started no one knew what the chinese filth was and how powerful it might be...
The Chinese have shown us who they are... let’s take the warning seriously and pull back on dealing with them. Put tariffs on everything they produce.


39 posted on 05/27/2020 10:30:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (Plan for the worst (intentional bio-weapon attack.) Hope for the best (current plan)...)
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To: thoughtomator
Bodies laying on the street in third world countries is normal.

Brazil has a population over 200m. 20k deaths is not even a rounding error. If the final toll is 50 times higher than that even, it will still amount to all of a half percent of their population.

Get out of fear mode. This was never a killer virus.


I think you're in denial - a sign of fear. By your words, you are telling the world you have no feelings for those who've died or been injured from this around the globe, including over 100 thousand of your own fellow countrymen who've died, not to mention those impacted for life. You're also ignorant of some very basic facts:

Brazil isn't a third world country. And any disease which has killed over 100k people in the USA alone, in less than three months, is most certainly "a killer". It's well on its way to becoming the biggest killer since the Spanish flu epidemic which occurred at the beginning of the last century.

That's enough bodies to fill 1,400 refrigerated 18-wheeler trailers with 72 bodies each. That's a convoy 27 miles long, at Interstate speeds, would take it over half an hour to pass thru your town. This number died in less than three months and we still have no idea how long we'll have to deal with CV.

For everyone who died, many suffered the traumatic experience of having a loved one die - over a million people are missing a close relative, if for everyone who died, ten were left behind to morn them.

This isn't over. Repercussions will be many and great. They may eventually become existential if world war breaks out.

40 posted on 05/27/2020 11:50:37 AM PDT by amorphous
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