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Beating up the numbers: The loose definition and inflated tally of COVID-19 deaths
justthenews.com ^ | 5/26/2020 | michael fumento

Posted on 05/26/2020 8:07:39 AM PDT by bitt

How a man who drank himself to death shamed a state health department into more transparent record keeping — and what it could mean for nationwide coronavirus mortality statistics.

You may have seen the memes, such as “Man killed by shark dies of COVID-19.” Or the one with a guy hanging out of his windshield after a terrible accident and a reporter shoving a mike into his face asking, “Sir, can you tell us how you got COVID-19?”

Yet the darkly satirical memes are closer to reality than you might think. Indeed, one such event has shamed a state health department into more transparent public record-keeping — as well as helping to show how much coronavirus deaths have been exaggerated.

A male corpse was found in a Colorado park with a 0.55% alcohol level. That’s well above the lethal limit. The coroner declared cause of death as alcohol poisoning. But just as in those sardonic memes, the state’s Department of Public Health and Environment (DPHE) insisted on categorizing it as a COVID-19 death.

Previously, attending physicians at a nursing home had ruled three deaths as not related to the virus. But, again, the state insisted on classifying them as such anyway. Reasoning? All four of the deceased had tested positive for the virus.

The park death, however, was the last straw for GOP Representative Mark Baisly, who blew his top, and for the doctor who issued the death certificate for the poisoning case and went public.

“I can see no reason for this,” declared Coroner George Deavers, while Baisly threatened to demand criminal charges against Jill Ryan, the executive director of DPHE.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: covid19deaths

1 posted on 05/26/2020 8:07:39 AM PDT by bitt
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2 posted on 05/26/2020 8:07:54 AM PDT by bitt (Much of our culture is intended to traumatize us, as traumatized people are easily controlled)
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To: bitt

Wow that proves it! There have not been 99,921 Covid19 deaths in the US! The TRUE number is 99,917, because of the information we learn from this article! That’s huge!


3 posted on 05/26/2020 8:14:16 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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To: brookwood

And again we learn that Medicare pays more if a patient has Covid - although the hospital workers can catch Covid from the patient and die, but if someone has a shark bite, the doctors are relatively safe from other shark bites. So maybe a little extra is justified.


4 posted on 05/26/2020 8:18:39 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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To: bitt

So here is the answer to all of those people that claim this doesn’t happen because doctors and coroners would be held liable for falsifying a death certificate:
“Department of Public Health and Environment” or “DHHS” is changing them, not necessarily the coroners or doctors misstating cause of death on the cert.


5 posted on 05/26/2020 8:18:53 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The Left doesn't have ideas, it has cliches. H/T Flick Lives)
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To: brookwood

In fact, there have not been “tested and proven” 99,917 deaths because of Covid.

You can’t make a case without evidence and here it is less than circumstantial.

They die because of gunshot in Washington State and their deaths are attributed to Covid?

There are example after example of this and it is amoral and immoral to continue down this path of destruction over this fiction which notably, has suppressed the news we hear about the flu and deaths each year.

Heck, we don’t know how many people died because of the deadly winter cold temperatures, which we hear about every year.

Gimme a break


6 posted on 05/26/2020 8:22:00 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: brookwood

Brookwood is a Covid-Karen among all Covid-Karens.


7 posted on 05/26/2020 8:32:12 AM PDT by tatown
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To: bitt

ok so CDC now announces that the fatality rate of Covid-19 is 0.03 , much much lower than previously stated-I beleive the flu is 0.001 so 3x the flu but not like fear mongers have been pushing


8 posted on 05/26/2020 8:35:04 AM PDT by TECTopcat (e)
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To: bitt
A large percent are nursing home deaths. Do these dire statistics have anything to do with the stay in a nursing home is just 5 months before death?

The exact figure is under-counted, experts warn, because not all states are publicly reporting data yet. In some states, more than half of coronavirus deaths have come our of nursing homes.

NY times estimates 1/3 Virus deaths are from Nursing homes based on data of the states keeping track. Half of EU covid-19 are nursing home deaths. Canada, 81 percent deaths are nursing homes.

Therefore, Covid-19 deaths of non nursing home people is about half the total, or 50,000. Then subtract all the phony diagnosis of people who died with the virus as opposed to from the virus.. what are we talking about 30,000 deaths or less ,healthy people who actually died covid 19?

Consider San Diego country claims only 3 percent of deaths were those without pre existing conditions .. so then what's the actual death risk for healthy person in the USA today to be exposed and die from the boogie virus gas without a mask, 3,000 to 30,000 out of 300 million population, about 1 in 100,000 to ?

Consider, how many people die in car accidents every year, it is about this same number but we are not afraid to drive. Or flu deaths, roughly same, we never afraid to go without masks.

If we have fear of death perhaps the solution isn’t mandatory PPE to calm our fears, maybe like in the past during crisis we can look for answers in the bible;

Jeremiah 29:11
For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.

https://www.geripal.org/2010/08/length-of-stay-in-nursing-homes-at-end.html

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/09/us/coronavirus-cases-nursing-homes-us.html

https://www.aarp.org/caregiving/health/info-2020/coronavirus-nursing-home-cases-deaths.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/13/half-of-coronavirus-deaths-happen-in-care-homes-data-from-eu-suggests

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/coronavirus-canada-long-term-care-nursing-homes/2020/05/18/01494ad4-947f-11ea-87a3-22d324235636_story.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/13/half-of-coronavirus-deaths-happen-in-care-homes-data-from-eu-suggests

9 posted on 05/26/2020 8:36:15 AM PDT by seastay
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To: seastay
In fact, you are more likely to die this year, than to even catch the coronavirus.


10 posted on 05/26/2020 8:47:48 AM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: bitt; All
The democRATS and the media want the death toll to rise as high as possible from the virus for Trump's Death Toll totals.

The more people die from the corona virus, the more the Left can't blame Trump for doing a poor job responding to the pandemic. Fits their agenda and narrative better.

11 posted on 05/26/2020 8:55:42 AM PDT by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: brookwood

I know it breaks your heart these but as many people has died and that the numbers are overstated by as much as 25-33%

It must be depressing to rejoice so boldly with a pandemic and it’s quite macabre at your salivating over the deaths. But realistically the number is 70,000 or so. A bad flu season

And the current fatality rate is plummeting now at 0.26% per CDC

Please keep your ghoulish behavior in the forefront


12 posted on 05/26/2020 8:58:44 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: brookwood

‘There have not been 99,921 Covid19 deaths in the US!’

congrats; you’ve finally posted a true statement...


13 posted on 05/26/2020 9:01:33 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: brookwood

Look in a mirror and ask yourself, just what would make a person want the death toll to be higher?

Scarey level of twisted logic there.


14 posted on 05/26/2020 9:05:18 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: gas_dr
and according to the CDC, "for people 65 years and older, current COVID-19 hospitalization rates are within ranges of influenza hospitalization rates observed at comparable time points during recent influenza seasons."


15 posted on 05/26/2020 9:05:22 AM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: TECTopcat
ok so CDC now announces that the fatality rate of Covid-19 is 0.03 , much much lower than previously stated-I beleive the flu is 0.001 so 3x the flu but not like fear mongers have been pushing

I think you missed a decimal place there...

0.001 * 3 = 0.003.

The current fatality rate is supposedly around 0.3% (0.003), while the flu is ~0.1% (0.001). Your point is valid, just wanted to clarify the numbers. For my part, I would bet that the actual fatality rate from COVID is even less than 0.1%.

16 posted on 05/26/2020 9:09:27 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: bitt

Wife showed me this joke

Wife to husband: “hey do you think this COVID-19 shut down quarantine has made me look fatter?”

Husband to wife: “you were never really very skinny even before the quarantine”

Time of death 11:17 PM

Cause of death COVID-19


17 posted on 05/26/2020 9:09:43 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guv-mint you get is the Trump winning express ! Yea haw ! Trump pence II!)
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To: brookwood

Sticking your head in the sand a lot these days.


18 posted on 05/26/2020 12:07:31 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.(DT4POTUS))
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To: brookwood; bitt
CDC says Covid-19 deaths this year is 77K
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm
19 posted on 05/27/2020 10:01:15 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: brookwood; bitt

also notice the number of deaths by the Flu


20 posted on 05/27/2020 10:02:07 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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