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"We were only following guidelines!" Nuremberg excuse.

Oddly, New Jersey, Michigan, Pennsylvania and New York all mindlessly followed the same CDC guidelines. None of the red governors followed such an idiotic, inhuman policy. Even Canada, not part of the US, did the same.

It's another question, why the CDC guidelines would say such a thing. Trying to pin the scrawlings of some nameless CDC bureaucrat on Trump as the author is tortuous, but the buck does stop with POTUS, and he should see to it that the guidelines be changed.

1 posted on 05/24/2020 6:25:36 AM PDT by Eleutheria5
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Fedzilla changed the regs back in March to allow nursing homes to refuse.

Notice that Cuomo doesn’t mention that.

Notice the enemedia doesn’t mention that, either.


2 posted on 05/24/2020 6:29:50 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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I’d like to read the guidelines again. But, they didn’t say it was mandatory to admit COVID patients. They outlined under what circumstances they COULD be admitted and how they should be isolated.

On another note, the lefty Governors do love to have it both ways. They want to tell the POTUS that he has no control over them while, when convenient, simultaneously claiming that they are controlled by the POTUS.


3 posted on 05/24/2020 6:29:52 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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Cuomo the murderer is a piece of work and accusing our President Trump is a sign of desperation.


4 posted on 05/24/2020 6:30:38 AM PDT by The Sentient Sheep
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Cuomo was never really that great.


5 posted on 05/24/2020 6:30:41 AM PDT by Paladin2
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Blame someone instead of taking personal responsibility. Sign of an incompetent leader.


6 posted on 05/24/2020 6:31:56 AM PDT by Ret 1sg
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Cuomo is a jackass


10 posted on 05/24/2020 6:33:32 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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He’s not going to get away with this, the CDC guidelines only said they can’t DISCRIMINATE against covid-19 patients.

It did not say they were REQUIRED to accept covid-19 patients when there were other “beds” available. And man, there were beds available: the Javits Center and the hospital ship. Both of which went nearly unused. This is where Cuomo’s tale unravels.

Evidently, there was a regulation on the books that needed to be changed in order to discharge to something other than nursing homes i.e. Javits center or the Comfort ship. Remember, Cuomo famously said “We can’t discharge to the Marriott Hotel” (something to that effect).

But the regulation was not changed for some reason.


12 posted on 05/24/2020 6:34:31 AM PDT by Dana1960
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How do these guidelines translate into Cuomo’s order?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/nursing-homes-responding.html

I don’t see a “MUST” anywhere in there?


13 posted on 05/24/2020 6:35:06 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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Just like he listens to orders on sanctuary cities!


15 posted on 05/24/2020 6:38:03 AM PDT by alstewartfan (One day he just washed up on the shores of his regrets. May his soul rest in peace. Al S.)
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He’s managed the same feat as Obama, being simultaneously disgusting and pathetic.


16 posted on 05/24/2020 6:41:27 AM PDT by wny
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The worst mistake, the only one that matters is the self-inflicted national suicide of our economy from shutting it down on purpose.

I guess I should have seen this coming.

Of course, Coumo would find a way to defect the blame to Trump.

If you follow the Federal guidelines mindlessly any bad consequences are not your fault.

If Trump didn’t put out notifications that you shouldn’t follow a particular guideline and the guideline leads to a poor outcome, it’s Trump’s fault not yours.

But, if a bunch of nursing home operators all notify you that they are not equipped to handle COVID-19 patients and it is not the right thing to do to bring them back to the nursing home, MAYBE you should give this guideline careful consideration and use your own judgement.

That is called being a LEADER and not a follower.

18 posted on 05/24/2020 6:42:24 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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Ummm, I’m quite sure the president DID NOT instruct governors to dump covid positive patients into nursing home full of vulnerable people.


19 posted on 05/24/2020 6:42:55 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyrants don't just give you your freedoms back. You have to take them.)
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What a loathsome snake.


21 posted on 05/24/2020 6:47:06 AM PDT by txrefugee
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Andrew Cuomo said New York followed the president’s agency guidance.

Must be a first time Cuomo followed Trump's advice.

At least he had the presence of mind to include body bags.

23 posted on 05/24/2020 6:50:11 AM PDT by spokeshave
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“CDC guidelines require any newly admitted and readmitted resident with a COVID-19 case to be placed in a designated COVID-19 care unit, while those who have met the criteria to have recovered can return to a regular unit in the nursing home.

The March 13 guidance that Cuomo’s office cited says “a nursing home can accept a resident diagnosed with COVID-19... as long as the facility can follow CDC guidance.”

New York – along with California and New Jersey – went further and turned the guidance into state directives and said at the time that nursing homes cannot refuse to take patients from hospitals solely because they have the coronavirus.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cuomo-blames-trump-nursing-home-debacle-new-york-coronavirus


26 posted on 05/24/2020 7:03:23 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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Andy Cuomo - Big Fredo, or Governor Genocide? Tough choice.


27 posted on 05/24/2020 7:03:28 AM PDT by Bernard ("I don't know if that's true:" Schiff said.)
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The Government should have never authorized extra money for Covid diagnoses. THAT has singularly spiked our Covid positive and our Covid death statistics. And let’s face it, other countries frequently lie about their statistics. (Read China and all other Communist countries)


28 posted on 05/24/2020 7:15:18 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell..?)
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(granny harvesting) Via the orders of Blue Governors!

Cuomo panicked when he relied upon the prophecies of the high priests of The Science(TM). So, to make room in hospitals, he passed a death sentence on nursing home residents. It’s as simple as that.

71 posted on 5/24/2020, 12:19:40 AM by Skepolitic


32 posted on 05/24/2020 7:30:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( The CHICOM/PRCNN, controllers of America's Fake news media, CDCNN, WHO, are the Deep Staters!))
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Whenever there is a royal screwup, everyone looks up the command chain for the nearest Republican, or, lacking that, the nearest White Heterosexual Christian Male, and dumps all the blame on him.
Remember Katrina?


34 posted on 05/24/2020 7:35:06 AM PDT by I want the USA back (I fear my government more than the Chinese bug.)
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Sometimes common sense, good judgment and wisdom takes precedent.

I’ve never been in military but what I’ve seen on TV, our military men in war will use common sense instead of following a particular order from above. Cuomo does not have common sense.


35 posted on 05/24/2020 7:38:54 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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