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Corona Virus Daily Thread #53 COVID-19 5/23/2020
5/23/20 | Many

Posted on 05/23/2020 8:51:48 AM PDT by riri

Memorial Day Weekend Corona Virus Thread


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coronavanity; coronavirus; covid; fearbro; flubro
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To: exDemMom

There is one way to stop war forever—create super high tech sex dolls cheap enough for every man on the planet—men won’t want to leave them long enough to go fight each other.

;-)


361 posted on 05/27/2020 12:02:41 PM PDT by cgbg (New poll: post elderly voters like Biden's experience as Wilson's VP fighting the Spanish Flu.)
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To: PA Engineer

It’s all over my head, no pun intended lol


362 posted on 05/27/2020 12:21:16 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: Fury

Efficacy of masks is not new. This has been studied and debated for decades. I remember reading the different studies as far back as 2007ish when I was prepping for bird flu. FluTrackers has logged studies and articles for the past 16 years concerning masks.

The only difference is today, the various factions today just choose whichever study happens to support their agenda at the moment. Some of the studies I’ve read recently are downright misleading at best.


363 posted on 05/27/2020 12:28:49 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: All

California doesn’t seem to be included in most of the sites that track hospitalizations and ICU beds. Per the link below it looks like CA has declining hospitalizations almost everywhere, including LA, and has an overall decline in beds filled.

https://public.tableau.com/profile/ca.open.data#!/vizhome/COVID-19PublicDashboard/Covid-19Hospitals

I guess we’ll see soon if there is an uptick from Memorial Day weekend, and all the openings happening over the coming week.


364 posted on 05/27/2020 12:31:06 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: LilFarmer

Re: 363 - I agree that masks have value - when worn properly and donned/doffed properly. There’s a reason that people on certain types of chemo are encouraged to wear masks or people around them are encouraged to wear masks.

I think one of the problems is the CDC has lost a lot of credibility on mask wearing. The studies about masks as you note have been around for awhile. It did not just pop up in the CDC’s mind that something other than a N95 mask could have value. I believe them changing their position has damaged their credibility.

I think the other problem is that people are so misinformed about masks and what they can/can’t do. I am busy with my ornithology research, so am in they field several hours every day. Some lady sees my car pulled over as I go to check a nestbox grid and asks if everything is okay. I told her about my research and she says “Shouldn’t you have a mask on?”.

I said I was more apt to get West Nile Virus from a mosquito bite - and *it* doesn’t spread via respiratory means - than being infected from SARS-CoV-2 doing field research. She really thinks wearing a mask in public means *everywhere* outside in public. It’s just a waste of a mask and useless to wear in certain situations


365 posted on 05/27/2020 1:24:20 PM PDT by Fury (.)
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To: All
Arizona sees highest single-day ER visits
366 posted on 05/27/2020 1:41:51 PM PDT by riri (If people still dropping, most aint shopping.)
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To: Fury
"I think one of the problems is the CDC has lost a lot of credibility on mask wearing. The studies about masks as you note have been around for awhile. It did not just pop up in the CDC’s mind that something other than a N95 mask could have value. I believe them changing their position has damaged their credibility."

You have hit on a very good point here. I am not sure if I trust anything from the CDC anymore. Not only they damage their credibility they created an antimasker movement where people who do need mask get shame for wearing.

My wife is on Chemo drugs so we wear a mask on the side of caution. Our doctor encourages it. The drug that they have her on inhibits the receptacles the Covid-19 uses, that is another story we want to get answer.

I found a study that was done by University of Edinburgh indicating the N95 does work. Even a handkerchief is 28% effective. So something is better then nothing if you are in area where there the coronavirus could be. If a person is high risk they should wear a very effective mask, and the rest of us can where a handkerchief to prevent a cough from spreading to far in the air.

I have to ask myself, If a N95 does not work why is there a huge demand for medical personal.

Can Masks Capture Coronavirus Particles?
367 posted on 05/27/2020 1:45:31 PM PDT by DEPcom
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To: LilFarmer

Five Shell workers with coronavirus airlifted to hospitals from offshore platform in Gulf

https://www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/five-shell-workers-from-offshore-platform-in-gulf-airlifted-to-hospital-with-coronavirus/285-f1c77046-41f9-4fcb-947a-2d8d9f2d3265


368 posted on 05/27/2020 1:54:46 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: DEPcom

Here’s another interesting study

https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/can-masks-capture-coronavirus/


369 posted on 05/27/2020 2:02:18 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: All; Vermont Lt; BobL; Kartographer; JRandomFreeper; Tilted Irish Kilt; Jane Long; LilFarmer; ...
Coronavirus brief: What happened in COVID-19 news yesterday in Sioux City, beyond (Iowa, Nebraska, South Dakota, 5/27/20)

Coronavirus update: Only half of Americans say they would get vaccine. Here's the morning's latest. (5/27/20)

Number of COVID-19 patients at Sioux City's two hospitals reaches a new daily high (Iowa, 5/27/20)

How many coronavirus cases does Iowa have? (also Nebraska, South Dakota, 5/27/20)

Chicago Mayor Allegedly Sends Armed Police To Shut Down Black Baptist Church Services (5/26/20)

PHOTOS: Sioux City class of 2020 receives diplomas drive-through style (Iowa, 5/26/20)

Sioux City high school graduates pick up diplomas at drive-thrus (Iowa, 5/26/20)

Giant Eagle customers with breathing problems sue company over mask policy (COVID Mask Cult, Pennsylvania, 5/26/20)

Cranberry moves to open parks and recreation facilities (Pennsylvania, 5/26/20)

Free COVID-19 testing available throughout Allegheny County (Pennsylvania, 5/26/20)

Seneca Valley math teacher multiplies food, generosity (Pennsylvania, 5/26/20)

Facing nearly $5 billion shortfall, Pa. lawmakers plan to pass short-term budget (5/26/20)

370 posted on 05/27/2020 2:51:33 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Willy Wonka2:24p, 4/8/20AG
My brother in law has invented a nitric oxide lozenge called NEO40 that is far more effective than the breathable stuff.

I’ve been popping it twice a day since this stuff started.

https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3105368


371 posted on 05/27/2020 3:15:32 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RummyChick

from the same thread

“Interesting question. One could extrapolate to other hemoglobinopathies such as G6PD deficiency (which interestingly is more common in black pts.) Oxidative stress worsens this condition. It can be treated with drugs like HCQ, quinine, ASA, NSAIDS, quinolones, nitrofuraontoin. But these pts get anemia, hemolysis, jaundice etc. I’ve not seen that with COVID-19. Methemoglobinemia is another disorder associated with oxidized iron in the ferric F3+ form instead of the ferrous F2+. O2 is dissociated leading to deadly consequences. It is diagnosed by PO2/pulse oximetry discordance, and dark “brown” colored blood - both not seen in COVID-19 pts. It is treated with iron reducing agents like methylene blue.

Sickle cell trait (heterozygous SA) is seen in 1/10 black pts. Fascinating to me. Could very well be playing a role. These pts don’t do well with lung injury. Not to mention sickle cell disease (homozygous SS) (1/365 blacks). But once again hemolysis is profound in these pts and I haven’t seen much in the COVID-19 ARDS patients.

Then there’s thallasemias - too much to get into!! Need a hematologist to chime in.

Blood transfusion can be used for methemoglobinemia and sickle cell disease.

One last forest/trees comment re this. These severe pts have profound hypoxia (PO2) in dissolved blood. Hemoglobin damage itself isnt going to effect PO2 levels.


372 posted on 05/27/2020 3:17:36 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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3 COVID-19 deaths reported in Woodbury County on Wednesday (Iowa, 5/27/20)
373 posted on 05/27/2020 3:21:28 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: RummyChick

interesting reviews on neo-40

https://www.amazon.com/HumanN-Circulation-Support-Boosting-Supplement/dp/B00NJ6NW3E?th=1


374 posted on 05/27/2020 3:24:25 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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WATCH NOW: Gov. Kim Reynolds speaks at COVID-19 press conference (Iowa, 5/27/20)
375 posted on 05/27/2020 3:25:30 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: RummyChick

this neo-40 deserves some looking into given that it is being looked at as to whether n.oxide helps with covid 19.

Not sure I believe these videos of the test strips.

Seems to me that, of course, your level will be high if you just sucked on a lozenge and then you are using the tongue to test it.

Apparently, it can be used for a variety of issues like high blood pressure, restless legs, sleep apnea , etc

I am probably going to buy a box.

I have started eating beets for the first time in my life. Eat them with cottage cheese.


376 posted on 05/27/2020 3:41:44 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: PA Engineer

A Texags family member developed this NEO-40 lozenge nitric oxide product. Do you have any opinion on it?

https://torontosun.com/health/diet-fitness/the-nitric-oxide-key-to-prevent-heart-attack


377 posted on 05/27/2020 3:43:57 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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School Districts Owe Taxpaying Parents a COVID-19 Refund (5/27/20)
378 posted on 05/27/2020 3:44:50 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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The Lockdown, Evangelicals, and the Afterlife (5/27/20)
379 posted on 05/27/2020 3:58:31 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: RummyChick
It makes sense with dilation, especially with endothelial inflammation. I don't know if it is effective for the degree of inflammation seen in COVID19 infection including early disease versus late stage.

I would give it a try, however with a warning for those who suffer migraines. Exogenous NO (other more affordable forms) may be useful as we age because of reduced production of metabolites such as NO.

Thanks for the ping.
380 posted on 05/27/2020 3:58:57 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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