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Critics Blast Trump For Taking HCQ As Preventative, But Let's Observe How It's Working Among Police Officers in India
Townhall ^ | 05/21/2020 | Leah Barkoukis

Posted on 05/21/2020 6:28:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Since President Trump acknowledged he was taking hydroxychloroquine as a preventative measure, he’s been criticized by the left for taking and championing an “unproven” drug that could have serious side effects, as some physicians point out. But other doctors point to the fact that it’s been in use for decades to treat malaria, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, and is a “very, very safe drug.” Some on the frontlines of the coronavirus fight say using HCQ as a therapeutic in treating COVID-19 has been a game changer

In India, its use as a prophylaxis appears--so far--to be working. 

More than half of the 10,000 police officers in Mumbai over the age of 40 refused to take the drug as a preventative measure, while 4,500 of them took it diligently. There were zero deaths reported among those who took it and nine deaths among those who didn’t.

Around 10,000 policemen over the age of 40 years were to be given the drug, hydroxychloroquine sulphate (HCQS), which was cleared by the ICMR as a drug with the potential to prevent a novel coronavirus infection. 

“However, only 4,500 of the policemen are taking the medicine diligently,” said Dr Sanjay Kapote of Apollo Clinics, who arranged for the tablets and their distribution across the police stations. […]

Dr Kapote said there was no mortality among the 4,500 policemen who took HCQS in Mumbai. “Although some in this group have contracted Covid, they had a mild attack,” he said. (Times of India)

India offered HCQ prophylaxis to 10,000 Mumbai policemen.

About 4,500 routinely took HCQ, while 5,500 refused.

RESULTS:

HCQ group: 0 deaths
Non-HCQ group: 9 deaths

And those who contracted COVID-19 in the HCQ group had "mild attacks"

h/t @niro60487270https://t.co/8V6aspapfv— James Todaro, MD (@JamesTodaroMD) May 20, 2020

At the end of the day, it’s clear studies need to be done testing the drug's efficacy in treating COVID-19, but some physicians say trials haven't been able to be conducted because the drug has become so politicized.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hcqludditeholocaust; hydroxychloroquine; india; politicalmedicine; preventative; trump
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1 posted on 05/21/2020 6:28:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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But other doctors point to the fact that it’s been in use for decades to treat malaria, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, and is a “very, very safe drug.”

As a dermatologist, I used plaquenil for 30 years to treat many patients with discoid lupus, without any problems.

2 posted on 05/21/2020 6:31:53 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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RE: RESULTS:

HCQ group: 0 deaths
Non-HCQ group: 9 deaths

_____________________________________

VERY VAGUE REPORT.

1) Deaths from what? The report did not say. Were all these “deaths” a result of Covid-19?

2) It also said that some of those who took HCQ contracted Covid-19 with “mild attack” <-— what does it even mean? This simply tells us that the protective ability of HCQ against Covid-19 is not 100%.

3) The report did not mention HOW MANY WERE INFECTED in the group NOT taking HCQ vs. those taking it.

This is really a useless report.


3 posted on 05/21/2020 6:33:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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RE: From the article...

RESULTS:

HCQ group: 0 deaths
Non-HCQ group: 9 deaths

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VERY VAGUE REPORT.

1) Deaths from what? The report did not say. Were all these “deaths” a result of Covid-19?

2) It also said that some of those who took HCQ contracted Covid-19 with “mild attack” <-— what does it even mean? This simply tells us that the protective ability of HCQ against Covid-19 is not 100%.

3) The report did not mention HOW MANY WERE INFECTED in the group NOT taking HCQ vs. those taking it.

This is really a useless report.


4 posted on 05/21/2020 6:34:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Hydroxychloroquine is NOT cyanide, no matter how it is pictured by the likes of Joy Behar, who has equated its use with the vast overdose that was self-prescribed by the Phoenix couple, of chemical commonly used to clean fish tanks.

Shortly after ingestion, the couple fell ill, said Arizona-based hospital system Banner Health.

The couple were both in their 60s.

The woman told NBC News she had seen a televised briefing in which Mr Trump discussed the potential benefits of chloroquine as a treatment COVID-19.

The drug has been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for treating malaria, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis but is unproven for use against the novel coronavirus.

“We saw his press conference. It was on a lot, actually,” she said. “Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure.”

“We were afraid of getting sick,” she told NBC.

Yeah, right.

I think she was trying to kill her husband. By appearing to also be a victim, this threw blame off herself.


5 posted on 05/21/2020 6:41:50 AM PDT by alloysteel (Freedom is not a matter of life and death. It is much more serious than that..)
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To: SeekAndFind

Anecdotal, right?


6 posted on 05/21/2020 6:50:06 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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Critics Blast Trump ...

because critics want Trump to at least contract WuHan Flu and at best die of WuHan Flu.

7 posted on 05/21/2020 6:50:24 AM PDT by arthurus ( the covfefe is in)
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The ethics of conducting a double blind study. Give a placebo to patients infected, risking death, just to appease Fauci’s gods?


8 posted on 05/21/2020 6:51:15 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: mjp

Bump!


9 posted on 05/21/2020 6:51:27 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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And the fix is in:

https://defyccc.com/covid-19-panel-gilead-ties/


10 posted on 05/21/2020 6:53:50 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Masks don't work.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Most MD’s in the US are taking it daily.


11 posted on 05/21/2020 6:54:37 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (A deep and terrible ignorance born of abject corruption is required to hate our president.)
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And if it is not 100% then it is criminal to use it. Instead we should use R-evir which has a scientifically tested ability to shorten recovery time an average of 4 days for those who survive. It does not reduce the death rate any per cent but that is so trivial.
12 posted on 05/21/2020 6:54:47 AM PDT by arthurus ( the covfefe is out)
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“The ethics of conducting a double blind study. Give a placebo to patients infected, risking death, just to appease Fauci’s gods?”

Still waiting on the tests of Parachute v Placebo. Until they do that, all safe parachute landings are “anecdotal.”


13 posted on 05/21/2020 6:56:08 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Masks don't work.)
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> > > VERY VAGUE REPORT

The article contains supporting links:

MUMBAI: More than half of the 10,000 policemen in the city who were to be given a prophylaxis drug meant to prevent Covid, which has claimed nine lives in the police force and affected 618 policemen in the city so far, refused to take it.

Read more at:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/75845670.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst


14 posted on 05/21/2020 6:57:08 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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Deaths from what?

From Covid-19. Click on the link to the Times of India article.

15 posted on 05/21/2020 6:58:06 AM PDT by Kazan
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“Why is Trump taking a drug that will save his Life!?!
We want him to die!!”


16 posted on 05/21/2020 7:01:41 AM PDT by gdzla (Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo)
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To: SeekAndFind

Zero deaths out of the 4500 who took HCQ doesn’t sound vague at all to me. The efficacy in preventing death in this study is also 100%. That doesn’t seem useless to me.


17 posted on 05/21/2020 7:02:37 AM PDT by freefdny
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1) Is a fair point. I think the writer of the article thought it implicit that the deaths were Covid, but because he didn't say it, it's a fair criticism; 2) This is unfair. The argument for HCQ is not that it prevents you from getting the disease at all -- it's that it make it less severe and less likely to be fatal. That would still make it very useful eve if it doesn't provide "100%" immunity; 3) Also not fair. Because of flaws in testing, percentages testing positive are not all that reliable, and the officers may not all have been tested anyway. Also, it is likely that in that large a group of officers, the distributions of who was infected likely were fairly evenly spread among the HCQ/non-HCQ groups.

In any case, I'm puzzled why the fact that other people are choosing to use HCQ seems to anger so may other people. Makes no sense as to why they'd really care. If someone else wants to take something that isn't doing them any good...so what?

18 posted on 05/21/2020 7:06:32 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: SeekAndFind

What would you choose to do, be in the group A that took it and had no deaths, or play it safe and be in group B that had 9 deaths?


19 posted on 05/21/2020 7:15:05 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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Trump’s body, his choice.

Our body, our choice.


20 posted on 05/21/2020 7:20:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( The CHICOM/PRCNN, controllers of America's Fake news media, CDCNN, WHO, are the Deep Staters!)our)
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