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1 posted on 05/20/2020 9:56:15 AM PDT by grundle
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computer models are always “best guesses” They are not scientific

GIGO applies here garbage in garbage out


2 posted on 05/20/2020 9:58:10 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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No, there’s far more incomprehensible, political and asinine “climate-change” models out there.


3 posted on 05/20/2020 9:58:44 AM PDT by PGR88
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“Neil Ferguson’s Imperial model could be the most devastating software mistake of all time”

I suspect that it was not a mistake.


4 posted on 05/20/2020 10:00:57 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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FORTRAN has nothing to do with any problem.

This author is nuts.


5 posted on 05/20/2020 10:02:09 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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most devastating software mistake

Characterizing this as a "mistake" is extremely generous.

How is such a model used?

It is simple. The "expert" runs the model multiple times.

They may tweak inputs a bit if the results don't "look right".

When the results "look right" (confirm the "expert's opinion"), they are accepted and treated as gospel.

It is the way it works.

6 posted on 05/20/2020 10:02:28 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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Neil Ferguson is getting major league high fives from the Deep State. The Wuhan Flu has been their most effective weapon yet in their fight for global domination. Don’t you worry about Professor Ferguson. He’s being richly compensated for his statistical “mistake”!


8 posted on 05/20/2020 10:05:53 AM PDT by dowcaet
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There’s COBOL stuff out there that’s as bad or even worse and COBOL programmers are dying off.


10 posted on 05/20/2020 10:08:32 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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Where’s the quality control?

One “model”?

Was this critiqued? Peer reviewed? If so by whom?

Good grief, I swear I NEVER Thought I’d see such incompetence and evil

God Bless The Greatest Generation and before, what a mess your kids and grandkids Yo Boomers and GenXers have made of what you pieced together winning WW I and II


12 posted on 05/20/2020 10:10:21 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Open up America! Enough! COMMUNISM was and IS the problem Boycott China)
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This was not a mistake. It was a lying model just like they use for climate change.


13 posted on 05/20/2020 10:10:44 AM PDT by caver
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It’s possible to write clean, clear code in Fortran, but the language doesn’t make that easy. I’m surprised that anyone would choose Fortran for anything other than simple mathematical problems.
But the problem seems to be an inability to program, rather than the language per se.


14 posted on 05/20/2020 10:12:41 AM PDT by I want the USA back (I fear my government more than the bug.)
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It could be the most devastating mistake of all time, but then it has to be a mistake doesn’t it? I don’t see how it can be anything but deliberate.


17 posted on 05/20/2020 10:19:24 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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This has nothing to do with Fortran. You can set up the subroutines in Fortran to accomplish the different functions for purposes of debugging.

Now, if the program was written as one big main program, yeah, that's a problem. But I think the problem is not so much the coding as it is the assumptions underlying the algorithm (otherwise known as garbage in-garbage out).

18 posted on 05/20/2020 10:20:00 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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Fortran is still used for all kinds of simulations and modeling. Actively supported.


21 posted on 05/20/2020 10:30:13 AM PDT by Feynman
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Fauxi and Birx used fraudulent Imperial College model to urge shut down 

https://liberalsarenuts.com/2020/05/07/dr-fauci-and-dr-birx-used-imperial-college-model-now-confirmed-as-a-complete-fraud-to-persuade-president-trump-to-lock-down-entire-us-economy

https://judithcurry.com/2020/03/25/covid-19-updated-data-implies-that-uk-modelling-hugely-overestimates-the-expected-death-rates-from-infection


24 posted on 05/20/2020 10:34:05 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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Well, we can’t have any program use 15,000 lines of code.

What a mess the world would be!


26 posted on 05/20/2020 10:37:19 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Bet it wasn’t a mistake...


31 posted on 05/20/2020 10:46:37 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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But if it saved even one life, wasn’t it worth it?

Just think of the lives saved if we would just lower all highway speed limits to 45mph, and all city limits to 15mph.


33 posted on 05/20/2020 10:49:01 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Just sit in your house until the food stops coming and then starve. You'll be safe.)
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Boy this guy is a whinger !

“Imperial’s model appears to be based on a programming language called Fortran...”

There is nothing wrong with Fortran as an engineering language.

Geez !


34 posted on 05/20/2020 10:50:28 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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Imperial’s model appears to be based on a programming language called Fortran

My career was built on FORTRAN (and Assembly)

39 posted on 05/20/2020 10:59:54 AM PDT by 11th_VA (May you live in interesting times - Ancient Chinese Proverb)
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“Mistake”.

Yeah, sure.


42 posted on 05/20/2020 11:07:31 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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