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F-35 Has Crashed In Florida, Second Aircraft Loss For Eglin Air Force Base In Five Days
The War Zone ^ | 5/20/20 | Tyler Rogoway

Posted on 05/20/2020 4:40:34 AM PDT by Yo-Yo

The aircraft was on a routine night training mission when the incident occurred.

BY TYLER ROGOWAY MAY 20, 2020

THE WAR ZONE

Details remain scarce at this time, but an F-35 Joint Strike Fighter that was flying out of Eglin AFB, which is located on the Florida panhandle, has crashed. Thankfully, the pilot was able to eject and is safe. The incident occurred at around 9:30 pm local time and the F-35A was on a routine night training mission.

This is the second crash of an aircraft operating out of the base in less than a week, with an F-22 Raptor going down on Friday, May 15th. Thankfully, in that incident, the pilot was also able to eject and survive the mishap. If the F-35 is destroyed, it would be the third crash of an F-35 that resulted in a total write-off of the airframe.

Eglin AFB is home to a large number of aircraft. It is a major training base for F-35, and more recently, F-22 aircraft, the latter of which were displaced after Hurricane Michael ravaged nearby Tyndall AFB. Eglin AFB has myriad other missions, including being the home of weapons development for the Air Force's tactical aircraft communities and supporting other developmental missions. The nearby Eglin Range Complex hosts all types of training and weapons development activities, among other events. Duke Field lies deep within in it, and Hurlburt Field, home of Air Force Special Operations Command's headquarters, as well as the Navy's primary air training base of Naval Air Station Pensacola, sit very close by. As such, the base sees many types of aircraft frequent its expansive aprons and runways and the nearby ranges.

We will update this story as more information comes available.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; f35; usaf
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Sounds like mainenance.

How so?

21 posted on 05/20/2020 7:48:38 AM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: Bayard
Chinese manufacture grade parts or maintenance screw up?

I was thinking more of chinee testing out their easter eggs in the chips they sell us.

22 posted on 05/20/2020 7:50:15 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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To: Sirius Lee

There are no Chinese chips in the F-35. We have rules about that of thing.


23 posted on 05/20/2020 7:56:50 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ

But there are persons of Chinese origin involved in the design of chips.


24 posted on 05/20/2020 7:59:19 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$
But there are persons of Chinese origin involved in the design of chips.

Intense oversight and monitoring would prevent introduction of any hostile code.

I'm in non-defense (health care) IT, and even in my field the scrutiny is amazing.

25 posted on 05/20/2020 8:02:10 AM PDT by Lazamataz (China is the single source of evil in the entire world.)
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To: Lazamataz

I’ve been around micro processor development and design. Two or three parties working in concert could insert hard coded commands into the design.Not firmware but hardware.


26 posted on 05/20/2020 8:13:33 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Alas Babylon!
If they were two of the same aircraft I'd be concerned it was a design flaw such as prematurely aged parts or something. But two different aircraft type point more to (1) tragic accident or (2) training issues or (3) general maintenance issues.

I'm sure the folks at Eglin are besides themselves right now. Such a shame for these two back to back tragedies to hit like this.

27 posted on 05/20/2020 8:20:29 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

I’m thinking not in the Defense industry, though.

Maybe one might sneak through, with great amounts of luck and super-incompetent reviewing and auditing, but that would be one chip among hundreds of thousands. The Chinese could not count on a good shutdown of American hardware.


28 posted on 05/20/2020 8:47:10 AM PDT by Lazamataz (China is the single source of evil in the entire world.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

Yep, I think you’re right that with two separate aircraft it sounds like more a training/procedure screw up.

I highly doubt the same parts are used interchangeably between two seriously different planes like the F-22 and F-35


29 posted on 05/20/2020 9:28:38 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: Yo-Yo

I have been told that F-35 pilots have to eject through the canopy.


30 posted on 05/20/2020 9:34:01 AM PDT by saminfl
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To: mad_as_he$$

You are missing some vital points. DoD and Avind chips processors are very tightly controlled in design and build. Without giving anything away there used to be a process called hash totaling to verify results. The internal design of a chip, processor, even opcode can all have there own internal build identifiers based on the construction of the item. Even the most minor change can result in an invalid code return and bingo, shutdown. This can be accomplished in layers; chip board system and code level, and integrated. How complex you make depends on what level of security you need and what your budget is.


31 posted on 05/20/2020 10:35:19 AM PDT by .44 Special (Tiamid Buacach!)
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To: markomalley; DYngbld; TADSLOS; xsrdx; big'ol_freeper; Mark17; mikefive; JDoutrider; ...

Active Duty ping.


32 posted on 05/20/2020 10:44:40 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: pepsi_junkie

Damn shame to lose the Raptor. The Lightning II can be replaced.

Obama actually had the gall to have the Raptor manufacturing assemblies and specific machine making parts DESTROYED. We need to retool for this fighter, or an improved version NOW!


33 posted on 05/20/2020 11:16:44 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

If you look at that picture over the Pass between Ft. Walton and Destin. In the upper right corner there is a giant condo. That is nearly on the spot of a cottage we lived in back in the early 60’s. There was only a few stores there then and I remember losing a brand new Micky Mouse wristwatch somewhere around there. Destin is still in the 60’s in my mind. :)


34 posted on 05/20/2020 6:34:15 PM PDT by Captain7seas (UN EXIT!)
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To: TalonDJ
There are no Chinese chips in the F-35. We have rules about that of thing.

As if rules protect that sort of thing:

Are you sure about that: US put China-made parts in F-35 fighter program

Also, Proof That Military Chips From China Are Infected?

35 posted on 05/21/2020 2:54:12 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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