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To: DiogenesLamp

He hadn’t stolen anything on that day. Both the video at the construction site and the owner of the house under construction have shown that. Arbery is no saint, but on that particular day, in that particular location, we know he didn’t steal anything. The McMichaels may have thought that he did, but he hadn’t.

As for who threatened or attacked whom during the confrontation, that’s not really possible to say because the video a) is terrible quality b) cuts away multiple times c) is blocked by the truck at the moment of the initial encounter and d) has no audio of any words spoken.

On the video, we see the McMichaels stopped in the middle of the street with Travis standing on the driver side holding his shotgun. Nothing illegal about any of that (unless you want to nitpick about obstructing traffic). We also see Arbery jogging/running down the street at a steady pace. Arbery veers right to go past the passenger side of the truck. Travis McMichael moves around to the front of the truck. At this point, we have no video or audio of what takes place. The next thing we can see is the two men are already fighting. That’s what the video shows; nothing more. Anything anyone else is adding to that is their own personal speculation on what happened and why. It isn’t fact and it doesn’t matter unless they’re sitting on the jury.

This cases hinges on what happened when Arbery and Travis McMichael met at the front of the truck. If Arbery simply attacked Travis McMichael without justifiable reason, Travis had every right to defend himself. If Travis threatened Arbery and Arbery had reason to fear for his life, Arbery had every right to defend himself. We don’t know what took place at the front of that truck and anyone who says they do is either lying themselves or lying to others, because it certainly isn’t shown on the video. The investigation and the trial will piece things together as best as possible and it’ll be up to 12 jurors to decide whether one or both of the McMichaels acted criminally under Georgia law.


81 posted on 05/20/2020 12:02:31 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
He hadn’t stolen anything on that day.

Firstly, we don't know that, and secondly, it's immaterial to the fact that he was the thief who had previously stolen property from the area.

Arbery is no saint, but on that particular day, in that particular location, we know he didn’t steal anything.

The "holding him for questioning" was about the possible stealing. The shooting was about the violent attack.

As for who threatened or attacked whom during the confrontation, that’s not really possible to say because the video a) is terrible quality b) cuts away multiple times c) is blocked by the truck at the moment of the initial encounter and d) has no audio of any words spoken.

A reasonable man will not run into an encounter with a shotgun. They will give a man with a shotgun a very wide berth. It is clear this man ran at the holder of the shotgun, and the holder of the shotgun couldn't bring it up fast enough to defend himself, hence the subsequent struggle.

A man threatening another man with a shotgun at the distances involved would have shot him dead on the first shot if he had been aiming the gun at him.

This cases hinges on what happened when Arbery and Travis McMichael met at the front of the truck. If Arbery simply attacked Travis McMichael without justifiable reason, Travis had every right to defend himself.

There you go. That's what I saw too.

We don’t know what took place at the front of that truck and anyone who says they do is either lying themselves or lying to others, because it certainly isn’t shown on the video.

Have you ever fired a shotgun? Do you know the effect of a shotgun on a human body?

If Travis had aimed at Arbery, Arbery would have been dead instantly. From the fact that Arbery was first shot in the palm, we can realize that Travis McMichael was not aiming the gun at Arbery.

What we can see of the video informs us that Travis was holding the shotgun in the "Low Ready" position, which is normal for people used to hunting with shotguns.

Had it been in the aiming position, Travis would have blown him in half with the first shot.

85 posted on 05/20/2020 2:17:17 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest; DiogenesLamp
He hadn’t stolen anything on that day.

Why did Mr. Arbery enter the construction site wearing white, low-topped and untied raggety tennis shoes and leave the site wearing high-topped steel-toed leather construction boots ?

90 posted on 05/20/2020 6:06:56 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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