Posted on 05/15/2020 4:55:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
There’s a reason why some people believe government officials are exaggerating the number of COVID-19 fatalities.
One problem is the hodgepodge way states tally those numbers, Fox News has found.
Some states count presumed coronavirus deaths along with confirmed cases under Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidance issued last month. Other states don’t count those deaths.
Deaths have been classified as a COVID-19 death even after a physician or loved ones reported otherwise. And those who died “with" COVID-19 have been included in the count with those who died “of" COVID-19.
“I think a lot of clinicians are putting that condition (COVID-19) on death certificates when it might not be accurate because they died with coronavirus and not of coronavirus,” Macomb County, Mich., Chief Medical Examiner Daniel Spitz in an interview with the Ann Arbor News last month.
“Are they entirely accurate? No,” Spitz said. “Are people dying of it? Absolutely. Are people dying of other things and coronavirus is maybe getting credit? Yeah, probably.”
The doctor also said he believes there are people who died of COVID-19, but weren't counted. Determining a COVID-19 death is based on each doctor's best clinical impression and that varies, he said.
“There’s no uniformity,” he said.
The debate over whether the COVID-19 death count has been exaggerated has intensified as deaths from the virus continue to rise at a steady and alarming rate.
As of Friday, there were 85,974 deaths due to COVID-19 in the United States, according to Johns Hopkins University data. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was reporting 83,947 COVID-19 deaths on Friday.
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i posted this yesterday on FR about another fraudulent death in NY via the CCP virus:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3844908/posts
>> This has NEVER been about “protecting the most vulnerable”!
It’s about killing them for revenue.
I believe the TRUE Coronavirus death toll is around 25,000-30,000..the rest they taking deaths from anything, cancer, heart attack, anything, and just adding “Cause of death, Covid” because the states make loads of money when there is more deaths due to Wu Flu
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I think the “official” tally is about 80,000. How did you make your calculation of 25,000 to 30,000.
Or are you just guessing?
Hillary! warned us about people who doubt “trusted” authorities.
“The goal is to make you question logic and reason and to sow mistrust towards exactly the people we need to rely on: our leaders, the press, experts who seek to guide public policy based on evidence, ourselves,” she said saying that this is the lesson of the book “1984”
Are you saying that counting every death as being a Covid-19 death is like... An exaggeration?
The language is tricky, but the intention is clear - MAXIMIZE the number of COVID-19 deaths...
(1) The CDC advises states NEVER to use the WHO medical code (U07.2) that indicates a death is a “presumed” COVID-19 fatality. Instead, the CDC wants states to ALWAYS use the code (U07.1) that indicates a “confirmed” COVID-19 fatality.
(2) The CDC wants states to use a death certificate procedure that “results in COVID-19 being the underlying cause more often than not.”
(3) And the Grand Finale - “COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death.”
CDC has also asked nursing homes and hospitals to review all deaths since March 1st for signs of flu-like symptoms, and to re-classify deaths that show signs of COVID-19.
If that request was made in a memo, I can't find it posted on the CDC website.
Totally fraudulent!
The numbers are cooked, that is a fact!
Im guessing, based on them counting ANY Death as WuFlu Virus, so someone can die in a car crash, but also test positive for covid, so they count the death as covid
Got hit by a semi crossing the street .... not wearing a mask ... COVID19 related death.
Total deaths from Jan-May 2019 to Jan-may 2020, matched up to total deaths. There have been less deaths from heart issues, flu, smoking, and pneumonia. Either they cured those four things, or they are shovelling those cases into CV-19 and running up the score.
Im guessing, based on them counting ANY Death as WuFlu Virus, so someone can die in a car crash, but also test positive for covid, so they count the death as covid.
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Do you have an estimate for the number of people who get the virus, die of a virus related heart attack at home and are never officially counted.
I gotta say, I cannot imagine what it must be like to be ambulatory (able to walk into the hospital under your own power) and have that done to you improperly. To be intubated you need to have essentially stopped breathing and be unconscious. I'm pretty sure hospitals ran out of anesthesiologists who are properly trained to administer the drugs, two of three drugs use for executions in some states.
Too little sedative and/or muscle paralyzer and the patient will fight against the ventilator with the result of a drop in oxygen levels and more fighting to breathe. There were undoubtedly conscious patients who died a rather brutal death, possibly unnecessarily.
Hypothetical and basically BS.
This has NEVER been about YOUR or loved ones’ health!
This has NEVER been about “protecting the most vulnerable”!
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Now that the weather is warm, why aren’t there health advisories to open the windows and use exhaust fans?
Goes to another proof of your assertion (with which I agree).
Hypothetical and basically BS.
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Are you serious? You believe this never happens? How do you know?
Here is the rat state re opening circle jerk: the hospital administrators, beholden to the health commissioner send their daily results to the state health commissioner that is appointed by the governor, three ways to skew the numbers. The rat cities do it with the crime statistics all the time
A patient on a ventilator must be put in a medically-induced coma.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3249859/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15865552
“..ventilator-associated pneumonia (VAP) are costly complications for the hospitalized patient”
“CONCLUSIONS:
Ventilator-associated pneumonia not only leads to a significant increase in ventilator days and ICU length of stay, but adds substantially to hospital costs. In our ICU, an episode of VAP costs $57,000 per occurrence.”
The hospitals never make money on medicare patients, because medicare pays a small fraction of the actual cost of the services. The hospital has to jack up charges to everyone else to make up for the fact they are being shafted by the government who forces them to treat medicare patients at a loss.
The one year survival rate after you have been on a ventilator is practically zero.
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