Accused Ahmaud Arbery gunman called cops 12 days before fatal shooting

NY Post ^ | May 14 2020 | Joshua Rhett Miller

[Trailerpark Badass]

Zimmerman definitely did initiate the contact, he was following Martin around the complex while talking to 911.

[Manly Warrior]

Lots of things you state are not factual.

But, lots of people make the facts fit their perceived narrative and go from there.

What matters in every case is what the law says is lawful/unlawful, not what we all prefer or think should be.

Justice turns slowly, sometimes years, so we shall see how n time.

My recommendation is to look at the laws involved, then consider each person’s actions in light of the law alone. Like a jury would have to.

Regards

[mac_truck]

You don’t have to steal something to commit burglary.

Do tell...how is burglary committed?

[George from New England]

On the face ...

Sounds like he reported ... did cops follow up or do nothing ?

If cops did nothing than they are part culpable in this death.

[wildcard_redneck]

“Well then, if they say so... I admire your trust in the media.”

Well said. What kind of fool would take the word of the media at face value when over 90% of media, even the local outlets, is owned by just six mega corporations?

[Mustangman]

I agree with you.....not really sure what to make of this case....might be murder of a black man......might be self defense. It’s unclear to me.

Anyway, like to do mental gymnastics with cases like this. Perception is everything whether we admit it or not. Mentally.....

replace the black man with a dude in a KKK outfit and the white father and son with a black father and son. Everything else is exactly the same. Now....who do you think is fault.

Or replace the black man with a white woman. Who’s at fault now?

Or replace the father and son with a mother and daughter.

This could go on and on. Replace the father and son with two two Nazi’s and the black guy with a holocaust survivor.

My point is... we have to be careful to not be biased by our preconceived notions. Justice is blind after all. From my standpoint, it looks like the father and son didn’t level the gun at the black guy and he rushed them... which makes the black guy in the wrong. But, that doesn’t feel like justice to me. Why did they even go chasing him? That’s the police’s role. So, they sent something bad in motion. I’m glad I won’t be on the jury.

[SJackson]

You don’t have to steal anything to commit burglary, aka breaking and entering. It consists of entering a building, home or other location for the purpose of committing a crime. Details vary state by state. In many states entering an open building doesn’t constitute burglary, some forceful entry is necessary. In those cases it would probably be trespass. Unless or until a crime is committed. Have to wait until this plays out, but my impression is that he entered an unsecured, uninhabited building and didn’t commit a crime. Don’t know his intent. I suspect that will pose a big problem for the McMichaels

[Trailerpark Badass]

LMGTFY:

GA 16-7-1

[a fool in paradise]

Travis McMichael was practicing gun control keeping Arbery from acquiring a firearm.

[Trailerpark Badass]

Well, the GA I just linked includes an unsecured, uninhabited building, so, no.

[Trailerpark Badass]

*statute

[libertylover]

Trevon Martin, Michael Brown, and now Ahamud Arbery all died for the same reason: they attacked men who had guns.

[LeonardFMason]

Again, ICE COLD. Just don’t care about this case. Hope Justice prevails. MOVE ON ALREADY!

[TnTnTn]

Absolutely!!!

[fireman15]

it was a dirty shooting - neither theirs nor anyone else’s lives were in danger. they brandished weapons and threatened him. they chased him and tried to corner him. he had every reason to fear for his life, they had none. they weren’t acting as policemen, but as lynchers. they give their part of the country a bad name.

Thanks for encapsulating the leftist fantasy telling of this tale. The older man who was hoping to hold him up until the police arrived was a retired police officer who had investigated the young thug for theft, shoplifting and carrying a concealed handgun to school. The guy was put on probation for five years as a result of the investigation. He recognized the thug from the video that was taken of him in the house on the day of the confrontation.

[TnTnTn]

Exactly!

[DoodleDawg]

GA 16-7-1

It contains the qualified "...and with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein..." Where is the evidence that Arbrey intended either?

[SJackson]

I'll let the lawyers argue that, presuming it was an unsecured construction site, an uninhabited future dwelling, the entry was unauthorized. If you've read the owners comments, that's far from clear. He knew about the "unauthorized" entries but didn't contact authorities about them though he did put up a camera. Then there's intent to commit a felony or theft therein. There's nothing to indicate he was committing a felony. I think the McMichael's may have some problems establishing burglary. Which might not be the only action authorizing a citizen's arrest. Personally, I think their actions were stupid. Whether they were legal will depend largely on the legality of the "arrest"/detention. We'll see.

[Trailerpark Badass]

Evidence is what is presented in court. Him being present “without authority,” in an area with previous burglaries, he’d probably need an affirmative defense to not be taken in. Unless he had a good reason why he was there, he lacked “authority,” and that would be enough for. PC.

[stuck_in_new_orleans]

Unarmed joggers who attack armed men should expect to get shot.

Armed wannabe cops who confront people in a street shouldnt be suprised when people try to defend themselves. These two clowns are going to jail. Regardless if this “jogger” went into a home under construction he didn’t deserve to have these two hillbillys confront him with shotguns in the street. That’s the cops job. Not theirs. It wasn’t even their home.