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Senate Majority Leader McConnell Pronounces Dem $3 Trillion Stimulus Bill 'Dead on Arrival'
PJ Media ^ | 05/14/2020 | Rick Moran

Posted on 05/14/2020 6:31:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and the Republican Senate caucus took House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s $3 trillion extravaganza of waste and delusion and declared the package “dead on arrival.”

In truth, it was dead before it was born. Donald Trump doesn’t want another massive bailout bill and Mitch McConnell isn’t keen on the idea either. So, with an eye on November — and as a sop to their rabid, radical constituencies — House Democrats loaded up a “stimulus” bill with every left-wing fantasy, desire, wet dream, and “transformation” of the U.S. they could muster and threw it against a wall to see what would stick.

It didn’t work.

The Hill:

McConnell, speaking to reporters after a closed-door caucus meeting, said Republicans would “insist on narrowly targeted legislation.”

“What you’ve seen in the House [from] Nancy is not something designed to deal with reality, but designed to deal with aspirations. This is not a time for aspirational legislation, this is a time for practical response to the coronavirus pandemic,” McConnell said, referring to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

For Democrats, this is no time for “narrowly targeted legislation” or budget and debt concerns, or even reality itself. Reality left the building a long time ago for Democrats and with this stim bill, they’ve given free rein to their most exhilarating fantasies and darkest nightmares.

But the bill effectively hit a buzzsaw among Senate Republicans, whose support would be needed to even get the bill scheduled for a vote on the floor, much less to pass the measure.

Sen. John Thune (S.D.), the No. 2 Republican in the upper chamber, argued that the House bill was not designed to pass, calling it a “messaging exercise.”


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; mcconnell; pelosi; stimulus
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To: Trillian

Only they are not going to get it.


41 posted on 05/14/2020 4:29:33 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
>>>Only they are not going to get it.

Not going to get what - another stimulus - or just everything? Because they will get another stimulus if Trump gets his way.

42 posted on 05/15/2020 4:22:05 AM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: NELSON111

Read the post I replied to, post# 36.


43 posted on 05/15/2020 7:20:43 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
They aren't going to get "everything" - but they will get most things...just like last time. That is how this game is played. They already KNOW they won't get these things. It's a game (see my tagline - which is not new - it's been there for years).

They set the bar at $3 trillion - knowing they won't get it - and the Senate says "DOA!!!" - Freepers CHEER! And then we get $2 - 2.5 trillion - Trump signs. Freepers move on. Watch.

44 posted on 05/15/2020 7:25:48 AM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: NELSON111
but they will get most things...just like last time.

Nope.

They set the bar at $3 trillion - knowing they won't get it - and the Senate says “DOA!!!” - Freepers CHEER! And then we get $2 - 2.5 trillion - Trump signs.

$2.5 Trillion huh?
Not gonna happen.
Ttump has already promised a veto even if it passes in the US Senate. It won't.
Don't forget Trump wrote the book on this kind of start high tactics in “The Art of the Deal”.
Pelosi should have read it. Trump knows exactly what is going on. He wasn't born yesterday.

45 posted on 05/15/2020 7:38:16 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
Notice you quoted my $2.5 trillion but not my $2 trillion.

We will certainly see. The white house has ALREADY said it wants another stimulus. Trump himself said he wants it. Hide and watch. He wants NEGATIVE interest rates and in 2016 called himself "the king of debt." Boy - you are going to be so disappointed.

46 posted on 05/15/2020 7:48:15 AM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: NELSON111
$2 Trillion, $2.5 Trillion makes no difference. Like French French General Robert Nivelle said in WWI,”They shall not pass”.
Pelosi’s bill is DOA. Read the OP again.
47 posted on 05/15/2020 8:12:02 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: NELSON111
< Trump himself said he wants it.

President Trump has already said just yesterday he will veto Pelosi’s bill if it passes. Its posted on FR. Use the search button at the top of the page. No sane person will sign a crazy bill like that.

48 posted on 05/15/2020 8:16:50 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
>>>President Trump has already said just yesterday he will veto Pelosi’s bill if it passes

And AGAIN - this is NOT what I said. Is it? No - it is not. Please - learn to read. I said very clearly the dims know it won't pass the Senate. It is their starting point.

Do I need to repost what I said for you?

"They already KNOW they won't get these things. It's a game (see my tagline - which is not new - it's been there for years). They set the bar at $3 trillion - knowing they won't get it - and the Senate says "DOA!!!" - Freepers CHEER! And then we get $2 - 2.5 trillion - Trump signs."

That's what I said. That's the compromise - JUST LIKE LAST TIME. They want $3 trillion - they will get $2 - 2.5 trillion. OF COURSE Trump said he will veto THAT bill...he wants to keep people like you on board - He didn't say he would veto ANY BILL

And if you think he will veto EVERY stimulus bill - you are a fool and will be proven VERY wrong.

49 posted on 05/15/2020 9:01:02 AM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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I said very clearly the dims know it won't pass the Senate. It is their starting point.

I don't care if it's starting point, middle point whatever. It will not pass. And if lighting strikes and it passes by mistake, it will be vetoed. Period.

50 posted on 05/15/2020 9:15:52 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: NELSON111
And then we get $2 - 2.5 trillion - Trump signs.

Not gonna happen.

And if you think he will veto EVERY stimulus bill - you are a fool and will be proven VERY wrong.

President Trump will veto this Pelosi bill if it passes by mistake. That's what counts.

51 posted on 05/15/2020 9:21:52 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
WHAT are you not getting? So - are you saying there will not be another stimulus period? Yes or no? Because you keep saying "IT" - and "IT" isn't "IT" any longer if they change "IT." "IT" becomes something else. Of course this particular one won't pass - but I firmly believe a stimulus will pass and be signed - there is ZERO doubt - because the white house said this: "The White House would likely support another round of stimulus checks, two senior administration officials told CNBC on Thursday. “As President Trump has said, we are going to ensure that we take care of all Americans so that we emerge from this challenge healthy, stronger, and with economic prosperity, which is why the White House is focused on pro-growth, middle class tax and regulatory relief.”

So - put it out there - yes or no - will there be another stimulus and will Trump sign it - REGARDLESS of what IT is. YES or no. - $1 trillion - $2 trillion - $3 trillion. Yes or no.

52 posted on 05/15/2020 9:22:19 AM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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I am saying this crazy bill from Pelosi will not pass. As a matter of fact it may not even have enough Republican votes to even come to the Senate floor at all.
Isn’’t Pelosi recessing till July 21st?
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3845235/posts
53 posted on 05/15/2020 9:32:45 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: NELSON111
Pelosi’s bill is not about stimulus. Its about bailouts for Dem governors who want to kill the economy and get Trump defeated by staying shutdown till November. It's about sending hundreds of billions of dollars to support every far left cause in America, ranging from dolling out billions to illegal aliens to abortion to billions more dollars for the fraud laden total mail in balloting in November.
IT SHALL NOT PASS.
54 posted on 05/15/2020 9:42:22 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: NELSON111
Pelosi’s bill is not about stimulus. Its about bailouts for Dem governors who want to kill the economy and get Trump defeated by staying shutdown till November. It's about sending hundreds of billions of dollars to support every far left cause in America, ranging from dolling out billions to illegal aliens to abortion to billions more dollars for the fraud laden total mail in balloting in November.
IT SHALL NOT PASS.
55 posted on 05/15/2020 9:42:39 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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>>>Pelosi’s bill is not about stimulus.

First - that was NOT my question. And second - it has stimulus money in it. It has $1 trillion in relief for state and local governments. It has a second round of direct payments of $1,200 per person, and up to $6,000 for a household. It has an extension of the $600 per week federal unemployment insurance benefit through January

So - if President Trump called the FIRST thing "stimulus" - then you would have to call some of THIS stimulus - perhaps not ALL of it stimulus - but some of it -

WHICH IS MY POINT...so stop skirting around the freaking question and the point. Will Trump sign a FORM of stimulus that has SOME of this in it - YES OR NO?

56 posted on 05/15/2020 9:53:02 AM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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“As President Trump has said, we are going to ensure that we take care of all Americans so that we emerge from this challenge healthy, stronger, and with economic prosperity, which is why the White House is focused on pro-growth, middle class tax and regulatory relief.”

I don't have a problem with any of that.
But that's not what Pelosi’s bill is about. It does the opposite of that.
For example, illegals are not Americans. Pelosi’s bill simply showers them with money anyway.
Pelosi’s bill also makes it easier for the hate Trump deep blue state governors to stay locked down till November, by throwing money at them in bailouts. How does that help the economy?
Best way to revive the economy is to END THE LOCKDOWNS NOW.
Lockdowns never worked anywhere.

57 posted on 05/15/2020 9:53:46 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: NELSON111
First - that was NOT my question.

Irelevant. Its what this thread is about. Read the OP.

And second - it has stimulus money in it. It has $1 trillion in relief for state and local governments.

That's called bailouts for states that are deliberately destroying their economies with economy ruining lockdowns with the sole intention of defeating Trump in November. Not gonna happen.
Whitmer, Wolf, Cuomo et al can always open up their economies and generate tax revenues. They want to stay locked down till November? Let them deal with the blowback from their own angry citizenry.

58 posted on 05/15/2020 10:06:51 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: NELSON111
WHICH IS MY POINT...so stop skirting around the freaking question and the point. Will Trump sign a FORM of stimulus that has SOME of this in it - YES OR NO?

You are going to burst a gut in a minute.
It just so happens that this thread is about Pelosi’s outrageous bill.
It simply shall not pass.
Don't even try and turn it into something else.
Best thing is for Mitch to dump this one.
If at some time in the future, further stimuli is required, it will be dealt with in an appropriate manner.
Meanwhile, no bailouts for Cuomo, Murphy , Newsom et al who have no interest in reviving their economics

59 posted on 05/15/2020 10:17:51 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
My ORIGINAL post was this: "Not going to get what - another stimulus - or just everything? Because they will get another stimulus if Trump gets his way."

It is as clear as this and it doesn't need to be any more complicated than this. This is exactly what I said and I've been consistent. You are the one trying to make it confusing. I have been very clear - they won't get this - but they will get something. It's not that hard. Not sure why you've made it this hard - or what is so confusing to you. I said it from the start: They WILL NOT GET the $3 trillion - but there WILL be a stimulus and it will be big. If you don't think so - you are kidding yourself. There - that simple enough? Or has cognitive dissonance overtaken you...

Now - if you want to impose some rule on FR that you have to stick to the EXACT topic of the thread - well - you have certainly got your work cut out for you.

60 posted on 05/15/2020 10:38:17 AM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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