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The Stockholm University mathematician Tom Britton has calculated that 40 percent immunity in the capital could be enough to stop the virus’s spread there and that this could happen by mid-June.


1 posted on 05/12/2020 9:09:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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The Author gives the following reasons why Sweden’s Strategy will eventually be adopted by the rest of the world:

* Swedish authorities have argued that the country’s higher death rate will appear comparatively lower in hindsight. Efforts to contain the virus are doomed to fail in many countries, and a large percentage of people will be infected in the end. When much of the world experiences a deadly second or more waves, Sweden will have the worst of the pandemic behind it.

* Lockdowns are simply not sustainable for the amount of time that it will likely take to develop a vaccine. Letting up will reduce economic, social, and political pressures. It may also allow populations to build an immunity that will end up being the least bad way of fighting COVID-19 in the long run.


2 posted on 05/12/2020 9:12:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Among other things, this doesn’t take into account mutations.


7 posted on 05/12/2020 9:34:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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See the lovely lakes, the wonderful telephone system, and many interesting and furry animals, including the majestic møøse.


9 posted on 05/12/2020 9:35:22 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Caveat Emperor)
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It was clear more than a momth ago that this was the best approach. The Swedes rightly calculated that delaying the inevitable was not worth the cost.


11 posted on 05/12/2020 9:36:37 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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I started posting this in late February....and now there is “scientific data” to back this up;

1) MOST of us have been exposed.
2) MANY of us have been “infected”
3) SOME of us have been “symptomatic”

and, unfortunately

4) SOME of the infected and symptomatic will be really sick and die.

And now the data shows that category 4 are mostly very elderly with multiple co-morbidities aka “underlying conditions”.

This has NEVER been about YOUR health.

This has NEVER been about “protecting the most vulnerable”

Call me a FLUbro...that would be a badge of honor.


12 posted on 05/12/2020 9:36:38 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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That this is published in Foreign Affairs means that the lockdown enthusiasts have lost the backing of the big global money. It lets Mario Cuomo know that it’s OK to unlock.


15 posted on 05/12/2020 9:47:42 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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I don’t know about Herd immunity, but I have seen a lot of Herd mentality.


17 posted on 05/12/2020 9:52:58 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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Trump realized that doing what Sweden did is a political failure. The Democrats would feature focus groups of surviving family members on TV until the election.

Now that we softened the blow on the hospitals, it’s time to take the political risk of a second wave by getting back to regular life.


19 posted on 05/12/2020 10:00:23 PM PDT by cicero2k
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“.....How to Get There Safely”

Safely? WTF! The question should be, “How to get there with minimum deaths and damage to the economy?”

What do you expect from the elitist Foreign Affairs?

22 posted on 05/12/2020 10:13:07 PM PDT by Chgogal (Wuhan Virus, Chinese Virus, Kung Fu Virus - Wuhan Chinese Kung Fu Virus aka CCP virus.)
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This was obvious $5 trillion ago.


26 posted on 05/12/2020 10:21:35 PM PDT by cmj328 (We live here.)
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Hydroxycloroquine WITH ZINC, that’s how. It’s cheap and effective.


27 posted on 05/12/2020 10:40:33 PM PDT by Crucial
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Where are we headed?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NyvVfQNfXtZDP0ZgVYw6Mw5X_B6pdK-gXFyd9g1zJgA/mobilebasic


30 posted on 05/12/2020 10:59:52 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (THE DEEP STATE HATES YOU!)
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Sweden should not be a model for this nor for a few other things in my opinion.

Islamic Invasion?

Socialized Medicine?

So, let’s follow them on this one...


32 posted on 05/12/2020 11:41:38 PM PDT by KJC1 (Illegals: One hand out and the other one flipping us the bird)
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"The Question Is How to Get There Safely"

Well...one way to NOT get there is to tell people to board themselves up in their homes.

34 posted on 05/13/2020 1:15:29 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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Oh, great, another model, this time on the rosy side.

Everything I’ve ever read has said 2/3 are required for herd immunity, now the rosy-scenario modelers are saying much less.

Spanish Flu killed 50-100 million worldwide. Only a max of 20% of the global population were estimated to have been infected.

Spanish Flu faded and disappeared by the early 1920s with no vaccine, and no herd immunity.

Social distance sufficiently well for a long enough time, and a pandemic will fade on its own.

Herd immunity means we can live normally, with no social distancing, and the virus will not find enough viable new hosts to infect.

But you can accomplish the same with social distancing alone, without sacrificing millions on the altar of herd immunity.


35 posted on 05/13/2020 3:36:56 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Busybodies vs. life

The secret place of the Most High


58 posted on 05/13/2020 3:48:12 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (QE 2020. All Quiet on the Western Front)
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