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Fauci Tells Congress: ‘No Guarantee That Vaccine Will Be Effective’
cnbc.com ^ | MAY 12 2020

Posted on 05/12/2020 9:40:06 AM PDT by Helicondelta

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To: wildcard_redneck
I agree -we have just passed the death rate for a very bad Flu year...and it looks like 100K+ is likely...and that's with all the mitigation.

Yes, you used factual flu death rates, but now that we did all the shutting down/locking down/mitigation, there's no longer a valid way to make the comparison.

Could there have been 2 million+ deaths from this bug - I doubt it.

Could there have been multiples of what we're seeing - very possible but, once again, we'll never know.

PS - You never really did any actual responding to any of the previous comments - you originally slammed a guy for agreeing with my comments and told him to go to DU (Where you probably would fit in better), the last questions I had were about your actual claim/inferred claim about protesting...you diverted nicely...

I also went back to check the thread of our "discussion" and noticed you telling someone else that you "might not be the most conservative one here, but your long-term squatting means they have to put up with you"...seems like I ain't the only one that thinks you'd fare better on a less conservative site.

BOOM! (You seemed oh so proud of yourself, but that's how a "BOOM!" is done)

161 posted on 05/13/2020 3:37:44 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Helicondelta

Fauci: We should remain in national lockdown forever, kkthx. /s


162 posted on 05/13/2020 3:38:02 AM PDT by cranked
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To: A_perfect_lady
>>If he can swing a non-accountable, mandatory vaccine (with who-knows-what in it) he has effectively become King of the World.

GATES: You know, if we have, you know, one in 10,000 side effects, that’s, you know, way more— 700,000—you know, people who will suffer from that. So really understanding the safety at gigantic scale across all age ranges—you know, pregnant, male, female, undernourished, existing comorbidities—it’s very, very hard. And that actual decision of, “OK, let’s go and give this vaccine to the entire world,” ah, governments will have to be involved because there will be some risk and indemnification needed before that can be decided on.

SOURCE: Watch CNBC’s full interview with Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates on the coronavirus pandemic and his work toward a vaccine

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/04/09/watch-cnbcs-full-interview-with-microsoft-co-founder-bill-gates-on-past-pandemic-warnings.html

also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjgbMib36do

start at 2:45 in this clip (youtube) were he admits that that flu vaccine isn't directly so effective in older people (young people who get it cut down on the spread which benefits older people).

He then discusses making an amped up (more potent?) vaccine or CV to directly target older people (who are susceptible to CV)

money quote at 3:15

I had seen the clip in some youtuber's montage but no attribute.

This site provides attribution and transcripts https://www.corbettreport.com/gatesvaccine/

163 posted on 05/13/2020 5:31:33 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: xkaydet65

Can you expound on this further? I’m trying to understand what motivates people like Fauci in this mess.


164 posted on 05/13/2020 5:58:46 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: trebb

The lockdown did nothing to flatten the infection rates. Evidence is mounting that the lockdown has increased the infection rate of the coronavirus. People get sicker in the winter because they spend more time indoors breathing the same enclosed air and touching the same surfaces over and over again. Everyone goes to the grocery stores and picks up the virus, and then spread it faster back in their homes.


165 posted on 05/13/2020 8:00:43 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck ("Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither.")
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To: trebb
“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” Camus

As the COVID-19 pandemic has progressed the leftists have reacted with authoritarianism, never letting a crisis go to waste, while patriots fight to retain our freedom’s. Which side are you on, the left or the right? I am starting to think that perhaps you tend towards leftism.

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/05/petty_tyrants_abound_in_a_crisis_the_left_turns_to_authoritarianism_the_right_fights_for_liberty.html#ixzz6MKtXHVG1

166 posted on 05/13/2020 8:31:16 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck ("Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither.")
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Sitting in the sunshine certainly helps, but there are several factors involved: a season of the year, time of the day, to what extent a person is "uncovered", using sunscreen, etc. In winter, for example, it is difficult or even impossible to get enough vitamin D from the sunshine. Please, see a map in this article.
167 posted on 05/13/2020 9:14:50 AM PDT by Czech_Occidentalist
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To: wildcard_redneck
We can't ever know that - once the cat is out of the bag, all the variables changed to the point where we will never really know.

Time to open up and it looks like Trump knows it would be counterproductive to dump Fauci at this stage (the Dems and Fake News have leveraged it to the max), he is starting to listen and disagree.<>Too many went full-panic mode early on and tied his hands and his hopes of the Parties coming together for the worst crisis to hit us in over 100 years has proved that the Dems NEVER work for the actual good and now it's time to slap them back to where they belong.

Sorry for some of the bile I've been spewing - i never thought we should have done the shutdowns in the first place but also know that "it is what it is" and it's time to move forward.

168 posted on 05/13/2020 11:17:49 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Couldn’t agree more...the latest “Relief” Bill they compiled while on vacation proves that they are now seeking to implement Bernie’s vision even though they know he could never win...


169 posted on 05/13/2020 11:19:05 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Helicondelta

Fauci’s function is to perpetuate the panic.


170 posted on 05/14/2020 7:07:26 AM PDT by Amish with an attitude
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To: Helicondelta
Today, a tweet about vaccines:

Get this weasel out of here! pic.twitter.com/qQ5oksDs3G— Drew Pinon (@Drewpinon) May 15, 2020

click the pic for 'cartoon' gates
171 posted on 05/15/2020 5:44:29 PM PDT by Syncro (Facts is Facts)
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