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Fauci Tells Congress: ‘No Guarantee That Vaccine Will Be Effective’
cnbc.com ^ | MAY 12 2020

Posted on 05/12/2020 9:40:06 AM PDT by Helicondelta

Fauci delivered the somber warning Tuesday to the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions during a hearing about the road to reopening businesses across the nation. U.S. officials have pointed to the development of a vaccine as a key turning point in the Covid-19 pandemic, even though it will take a at least 12 to 18 months.

As experimental vaccines are created, they will also need to be mass produced to be administered to the more than 7.6 billion people around the world. In the meantime, there are not yet proven treatments for virus.

Fauci’s comments highlight another complexity in the path to a vaccine.

“You can have everything you think that’s in place and you don’t induce the kind of immune response that turns out to be protective and durably protective,” Fauci said of a vaccine. “So one of the big unknowns is, will it be effective?"

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KEYWORDS: anthonyfauci; coronavirus; covid19; fauci; faucivaccine; hearing; senatehearing; truthbomb
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To: hawkaw; trebb
“Thank you for your excellent post. The level of hate by people including those in this discussion board on this one doctor is crazy.”

Go to DU and post your love of Dr. Doom Fauci. You Fauci fanboys are following this quack Pied Piper right off a cliff.

121 posted on 05/12/2020 11:29:47 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck ("Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither.")
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To: Helicondelta

The fraud still hasn’t developed an AIDS vaccine or for the common flu.
Yet life still goes on. And we must go on knowing people will still die from
Covid -19. People die from the common flu and AIDs every year.


122 posted on 05/12/2020 11:29:47 AM PDT by tennmountainman (The Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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To: Helicondelta

I’ll be surprised, pleasantly surprised if a vaccine is developed and is effective.


123 posted on 05/12/2020 11:30:52 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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To: Helicondelta

‘No Guarantee That Vaccine Will Be Effective’???

Really you stupid kcuF?

Then it isn’t a vaccine...


124 posted on 05/12/2020 11:31:58 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Helicondelta
Fauxi has jumped shark.

He needs to go away and he can come out when the leftards make the movie about him.

125 posted on 05/12/2020 11:33:37 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Helicondelta

That guy is a doctor and thank God he’s not in charge of this nation....

when he first was on TV... he was bearable... and in a few times, he became infatuated with himself.. Bearable at first, turned into unbearable mighty fast.. he thinks he is important... and his negativity gets old first go round... from his mouth to our ears.. can’t.. won’t.. and his numbers were never right... he gets on my nerves... !

I am just plain sick and tired... SICK AND TIRED...of the whole bunch of swamp dwellers... hurry up and charge them all.... please! whatever importance they put on themselves... it’s not warranted... jail is.


126 posted on 05/12/2020 11:39:44 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Still...statistically out of billions alive and of those numbers who’ve died over 35 years from all causes....a drop in the bucket.


127 posted on 05/12/2020 11:49:43 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Jan_Sobieski
You speak of ignorance based on your own personal dislikes...I'm not a Fauci fan but I also refuse to 'commiserate' with those who rail against fake news and then have no compunction about using the same tactics.

If you ever paid any attention, you would know I was one of the first to decry all the actions being taken even as so many here bought into the panic. I can't tell you how many times I posted the following:

"“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.” ― William Pitt the Younger

Kind of ironic - we know that the Deep State and others use fear as a way to steer and control the people - we had the commie/nuke war threat until the Berlin Wall came down then it wasn’t viable anymore and up pops Globull Warming, which has many in fear that we’re gonna destroy the Earth even as we do less harm than past generations and none of the data actually supports anything but the earth’s climate and Mother Nature do not now, and never did have a “balance” and even if they did, we have no idea of how to maintain one or ‘fix’ things...all our efforts end up causing more harm....the coronavirus scare is no different - the panic-induced knee-jerking will cause more harm than the virus.

Folks who would be up in arms if the government decided to tell them they could not move freely are now begging that same government to lock them, and everyone else, down....I’d wager if, after doing that, the story ‘evolved” they would also go meekly to barb-wire surrounded camps/tent cities because the “latest info” said that’s the only way to stop it. Even though we know that they use fear to guide and control us, so many can’t see it through the red haze of insane panic....they not only welcome the government controls, they beg for them...

And the fear mongers will try to leverage it...

Reminds me of a saying that many FReepers, who are now acting insane, used to showcase:

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” Ben Franklin

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But now, what is done is done and, being an adult, I accept reality as being reality, and won't twist thing because it might fit what I believe things should be...Fake News does more than enough of that...so many weak minds out there can only rant and rail about how "I don't liiiike it", instead of trying to deal with the current reality...you fit right in with them.

128 posted on 05/12/2020 12:18:49 PM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Apples will never = oranges...Fauci had no power to do anything but talk...why don’t you call for President Trump’s head on a platter while you’re at it?


129 posted on 05/12/2020 12:20:08 PM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: mdmathis6

For much of that time period HIV research has been a front burner political issue. At one point we were spending more per person on HIV research than any other disease.


130 posted on 05/12/2020 12:24:28 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: SmokingJoe
We'll never know about whether 1-2 million might have perished....the same models also predicted 100K or more deaths with mitigation, and until the past week or so none of us believed that could be true either....even as we pass the 80K mark today and know it isn't done yet...that part of the model seems to be coming true.

I hate what has been done and was among the first to rant and rave against it...you may have seen one of my numerous posts when it was all starting:

“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.” ― William Pitt the Younger

Kind of ironic - we know that the Deep State and others use fear as a way to steer and control the people - we had the commie/nuke war threat until the Berlin Wall came down then it wasn’t viable anymore and up pops Globull Warming, which has many in fear that we’re gonna destroy the Earth even as we do less harm than past generations and none of the data actually supports anything but the earth’s climate and Mother Nature do not now, and never did have a “balance” and even if they did, we have no idea of how to maintain one or ‘fix’ things...all our efforts end up causing more harm....the coronavirus scare is no different - the panic-induced knee-jerking will cause more harm than the virus.

Folks who would be up in arms if the government decided to tell them they could not move freely are now begging that same government to lock them, and everyone else, down....I’d wager if, after doing that, the story ‘evolved” they would also go meekly to barb-wire surrounded camps/tent cities because the “latest info” said that’s the only way to stop it. Even though we know that they use fear to guide and control us, so many can’t see it through the red haze of insane panic....they not only welcome the government controls, they beg for them...

And the fear mongers will try to leverage it...

Reminds me of a saying that many FReepers, who are now acting insane, used to showcase:

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” Ben Franklin

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Even though my wife and I are in the high-risk age group, I wish we hadn't done all the shut downs and other crap...but what is done is done and it is the reality of the day....no sense crying over it as it serves no useful purpose...now is the time to do what we can to help get things open even if it means getting out and protesting ourselves instead of letting others do the heavy lifting as we shed tears all over our keyboards.

131 posted on 05/12/2020 12:25:56 PM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: hawkaw; wildcard_redneck
hawkaw

As you can see, we have many immature children who cannot deal with reality and try to do what needs to be done to move on and deal with it...they cry and scream and whine and pule while the spilt milk sours because they are too lazy to wipe it up.

They call those who see that what's done is done, and who would move on and do what they can to clean up the mess, names and refer to them as the Leftis we all despise...even as they act just like them...they cannot deal with the truth so they snivel and use the same tactics of the left...dishonesty because it makes them feel better about their sorry selves.

I was among the first to rant and rail against what was going on as things started unwinding...and was called names by all theose who bought into the panic.

I can't remember how many times I posted the following:

“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.” ― William Pitt the Younger

Kind of ironic - we know that the Deep State and others use fear as a way to steer and control the people - we had the commie/nuke war threat until the Berlin Wall came down then it wasn’t viable anymore and up pops Globull Warming, which has many in fear that we’re gonna destroy the Earth even as we do less harm than past generations and none of the data actually supports anything but the earth’s climate and Mother Nature do not now, and never did have a “balance” and even if they did, we have no idea of how to maintain one or ‘fix’ things...all our efforts end up causing more harm....the coronavirus scare is no different - the panic-induced knee-jerking will cause more harm than the virus.

Folks who would be up in arms if the government decided to tell them they could not move freely are now begging that same government to lock them, and everyone else, down....I’d wager if, after doing that, the story ‘evolved” they would also go meekly to barb-wire surrounded camps/tent cities because the “latest info” said that’s the only way to stop it. Even though we know that they use fear to guide and control us, so many can’t see it through the red haze of insane panic....they not only welcome the government controls, they beg for them...

And the fear mongers will try to leverage it...

Reminds me of a saying that many FReepers, who are now acting insane, used to showcase:

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” Ben Franklin

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And I was called names by those who were doing the panicking that took many of the options out of the President's hands...many here on FR would have been siding with the Dems if he hadn't called for the shutdown and the very mitigation efforts they now whine about.

I bet they will whine and cry instead of getting out there with the protesters who are doing something to try to get things back on track...because they like the sight of tears on their keyboards....it's what they do best.

Thank you for your kind post....signed,
Disgusted...

132 posted on 05/12/2020 12:36:00 PM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: wildcard_redneck
So, snowflake, what are you doing other than whining?

Have you taken to the streets and supported any of the protests going on?

If you can read and comprehend what you read, you would realize you're tirade is nothing but emotional crap and devoid of reality.

133 posted on 05/12/2020 12:38:16 PM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: trebb; hawkaw

I have protested the lockdowns and I will protest in the future. I knew this was a scam within two weeks of the announcement that Covid-19 was here and that we should have ‘social distancing‘. I know that this farce is a repeat the 2008 financial crisis all over again that was gunned up to steal the election.

Signed,

Queasy, Unhappy, Weary, Displeased, and
Nauseated......


134 posted on 05/12/2020 12:45:06 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck ("Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither.")
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To: wildcard_redneck

Sorry. While I am not the biggest conservative you will ever meet, you are going to have to make room for me right here on FR as I have been since 1998. And, you are going to have to put up with my comments.

You should focus your energy on blaming the CCP instead of people who are actually part of the Trump administration (who by the way have done amazing things such as ramping up testing in the face of an unknown and new virus that should have never landed on these shores but for the CCP).


135 posted on 05/12/2020 12:47:26 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: Helicondelta

SO if Fauci has his way, the country will never reopen completely.


136 posted on 05/12/2020 12:49:54 PM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: wildcard_redneck
Good for you...now, put on your big boy pants and learn to deal with it.

BTW - when you say you "protested the lockdowns", do you mean you've been on the streets or just throwing words around? I only ask because so many here make vague statements meant to make others think they mean something else.

I haven't been on the streets but I have put my money where my mouth is with a number of donations to trump, Jordan and others...I also hit my Reps with emails and tweets on a regular basis...FR is my favorite place/venue but I don't limit myself.

137 posted on 05/12/2020 12:54:21 PM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: trebb
“ If you can read and comprehend what you read, you would realize you're tirade is nothing but emotional crap and devoid of reality.“

I can read and comprehend far better than you I’m afraid. As of today, the much-hyped and overinflated death toll is 80,000 in America. As I posted earlier in this same thread every year the flu kills tens of thousands per year just in America and hundreds of thousands globally every year.

“Overall, the CDC estimates that 12,000 and 61,000 deaths annually since 2010 can be blamed on the flu. Globally, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that the flu kills 290,000 to 650,000 people per year. ”

source: https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/how-many-people-die-of-the-flu-every-year

Furthermore, in 2017 the flu killed 80,000 Americans:

“Sept. 27, 2018 — Influenza was deadlier last season than it has been for at least four decades, killing 80,000 Americans. So said the head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention late Tuesday in an interview with the Associated Press.”

source: https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20180927/80000-americans-died-from-flu-last-year

I hope you noticed that I responded to your diatribe with facts while you just insulted me without specifying facts.

BOOM! That just happened!

138 posted on 05/12/2020 1:04:20 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck ("Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither.")
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To: Tax-chick

They’ve never cared if the vaccine will work or not.

Its the control aspect of this they will implement on us, whether it works or not.

The vaccine is just the vehicle du jour for control.


139 posted on 05/12/2020 1:06:47 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Yo-Yo

We’ve had a bunch of bad cold viruses forever, where is the vaccines for them?

the dirty secret/trick is they in their minds know there won’t be an effective vaccine for this, ever created. They also don’t care because that’s not what its all about, its the comtrol over people via a ‘vaccine’ working or not, which is what they want.


140 posted on 05/12/2020 1:09:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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