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Dr. Scott Atlas: The coronavirus cure is now worse than the disease
Fox News ^ | May 11 2020 | Dr. Scott Atlas

Posted on 05/11/2020 11:02:42 PM PDT by knighthawk

May. 12, 2020 - 4:55 - Dr. Scott Atlas, senior fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution, blasts the 'almost irrational focus' on stopping COVID-19 no matter the cost.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; economy; hysteria; shutdown

1 posted on 05/11/2020 11:02:42 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk

How badly does this guy hate his mother?


2 posted on 05/11/2020 11:10:52 PM PDT by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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To: knighthawk
The problem is, the coronavirus multiplied unrestricted from one person. Do we want to go to unrestricted spread again and blame Trump for it?
3 posted on 05/11/2020 11:19:26 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: knighthawk

No, the irrational focus is on hurting Trump. The virus takes second seat to that....


4 posted on 05/11/2020 11:25:06 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: knighthawk

We’re not going to stop it.

Protect the vulnerable, and start the world back up.


5 posted on 05/11/2020 11:31:31 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: EagleUSA

Yeah you can witness it every day when Trump gives a covid update. Today’s briefing was a perfect example. Now the rats are in the “take out Trump no matter what it costs” . these people are very awful, nasty folks.


6 posted on 05/11/2020 11:32:12 PM PDT by redshawk ( I want my red balloon. ( https://youtu.be/V12H2mteniE))
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To: redshawk; All

Trump should not be giving daily updates. It only perpetuates hysteria and provides talking points for the MSM.


7 posted on 05/12/2020 12:11:32 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: proust
Re: “How badly does this guy hate his mother?”

What do you suggest we do - or not do - when seasonal influenza starts to ramp up in October?

More than 1 million Americans have died from influenza since Dr. Fauci was appointed in 1984.

Actually - if we count influenza deaths with the same fraudulent method that Dr. Fauci uses to count COVID-19 deaths, about 10 million Americans have died from influenza on Dr. Fauci’s watch.

8 posted on 05/12/2020 1:13:06 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: knighthawk

Now? it has been all along. We see what happens when in formed hysteria meets power hungry jerks in local and statewide government. It isn’t pretty and has cost us dearly


9 posted on 05/12/2020 1:26:24 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: knighthawk

Lockdowns in and of themselves made rhe ‘cure’ worse than the disease. We have horrible leadership in this world.

Their march toward totalitarianism is almost guaranteed.

JoMa


10 posted on 05/12/2020 3:22:48 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks.)
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To: zeestephen

“Actually - if we count influenza deaths with the same fraudulent method that Dr. Fauci uses to count COVID-19 deaths, about 10 million Americans have died from influenza on Dr. Fauci’s watch.”
I hate liars. I hate them - that’s you zeestephen. Show some data to back up your lies or shut up.


11 posted on 05/12/2020 3:50:03 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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To: zeestephen

Here’s what Dr. Kevorkian AKA Scott Atlas is saying
“absense of logic” - as though the other 900,000 doctors in American just aren’t as smart as Scott Atlas.
“sensationalistic”
“hypothetical models”- all models are hypothetical what a jackass this guy is.
Says point of lockdowns is to make sure hospitals are not overrun.
No, the point of lockdowns is to prevent the spread of the disease also so fewer people die.
“states don’t understand the science”- self appointed arbiter of all science- he a megalomaniacal a**hole.
“more we test more cases we have”
“50% have zero symptoms,
“99 percent of those infected have mild symptoms”
Nope. In NYC 3% of those infected are hospitalized and 1% die.
cases 5-9 177481
Hospitalized 44256
deaths 19,809
death rate 11.1611947%

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/494324-27m-new-yorkers-have-had-coronavirus-preliminary-data-shows
assumed infections based on serology survey
1680000
IFR 1.18%
Hosp. rate 2.63%
This is what really gets me - he says 99% have “mild symptoms”. We know 1% will die. But of the other 99%, 2% will be hospitalized. When you are hospitalized your symptoms are severe, not mild. This guy is a disgrace, off by a factor of 300% in his description of who has severe symptoms. I know someone who had Covid, who was not hospitalized, but could not sleep for 3 days. This guy is a complete fraud.


12 posted on 05/12/2020 3:59:44 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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To: joma89
We have horrible leadership in this world.

Yes, essentially because the voters who have installed these "leaders" have been dumbed down and brainwashed to the point that they have lost all ability to think independently and critically.

13 posted on 05/12/2020 5:19:47 AM PDT by Salvey
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To: proust

“How badly does this guy hate his mother?”

Why do you hate mothers?


14 posted on 05/12/2020 6:06:06 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: brookwood
Re: “Show some data to back up your lies or shut up.”

No problem. Here's the link to the most important CDC memo:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf

Let me summarize for you...

(1) The new coding system “is expected to result in COVID19 being the underlying cause of death more often than not.”

Translation: If the dead person tested positive for COVID-19, the cause of death is COVID-19, regardless of any other diseases that might be present.

(2) What if the dead person was not tested but had flu-like symptoms? “It is not likely that NCHS will follow up on these cases.”

Translation: Any person who had flu-like symptoms after February 29th can be declared a COVID-19 death!

Also, Dr. Birx told a White House meeting yesterday that the CDC death toll is at least 25% too high.

The first report on Birx came out in WaPo, which is behind a pay wall.

Also, and I can dig out the links if you need them, pneumonia kills about 300,000 Americans each year.

At least 50% of those pneumonia cases were caused by influenza or the common cold - but, less than 10% of those deaths are assigned to influenza.

But - 100% of the people infected with COVID-19 who die from pneumonia are classified as COVID-19 deaths!

And - exactly the same thing happens with cancer deaths, cardio-vascular deaths, and diabetes deaths.

15 posted on 05/12/2020 7:52:03 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: knighthawk

Just like back in the day “bleeding” a patient never really did any good.


16 posted on 05/12/2020 7:53:10 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: jonrick46

There were multiple vectors in play for the start of this epidemic in the US, not just one.


17 posted on 05/12/2020 7:53:55 AM PDT by MortMan (Shouldn't "palindrome" read the same forward and backward?)
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To: brookwood

Re: “he says 99% have “mild symptoms”

He’s talking about people under age 65 who are in good health.

The death rate for that cohort is 0.1%, exactly the same as the death rate for seasonal influenza.

This debate is about destroying the USA economy in a deranged and futile attempt to save elderly and infirm Americans from a potentially fatal disease.

I am elderly, but in excellent health, and I live just 10 miles from the nursing home in metro Seattle where 45 people died, where this whole catastrophe started.

If I die, I die.

While I’m waiting, just so you know, I think people like you are insane.


18 posted on 05/12/2020 8:17:14 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: MortMan

We had the West Coast epicenter in Washington State which came directly from Wuhan. Then, we had the New York epicenter which came from Europe via Wuhan. New York was the principle source of infection for the entire nation.


19 posted on 05/12/2020 12:39:13 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: jonrick46

That is an assumption absent evidence, to my recollection. Most of the local hotspots across the nation did not do effective tracing, and therefore conclusions regarding source of infection are assumptive.

The original (singular) infection in the NYC area that I recall was from Iran. There were apparently others from Italy and elsewhere in Europe.

The dispersal pattern is reminiscent of bio-war games from my time in the army.


20 posted on 05/12/2020 1:39:51 PM PDT by MortMan (Shouldn't "palindrome" read the same forward and backward?)
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