Posted on 05/06/2020 11:44:05 AM PDT by C19fan
On February 16, a Sunday, a 61-year-old woman with a fever entered the Shincheonji Church of Jesus in Daegu, South Korea. She touched her finger to a digital scanner. She passed through a pair of glass doors and proceeded downstairs, to the prayer hall, where she sat with approximately 1,000 other worshippers in a large windowless room. Hours later, she exited the building and left behind a trail of pathogens that would lead to thousands of infections, triggering one of the largest coronavirus outbreaks in the world.
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I’ve heard that Hillary Clinton has a cure.
I have American friends who live in both Taiwan and Korea.
They are on the front line with China. They watch and prepare for everything that could come out of China, and virus is merely one of many things. Re: viruses, their caution started with SARS, but they have been through it H1N1, as well as animal diseases like Foot and Mouth - so they have an alert system in place.
And yes, their societies are very homogeneous (yes, both racially, linguistically, and culturally). If government recommends something like wearing masks, then everyone conforms and those who do not are shunned.
Yeah, wouldn't the Left love it if we'd all don Mao suits and head off to the collective farm. What an asinine comment.
Hong Kong’s been keeping their numbers way down, also.
Monoculturalism
Americans tend to be fat, that’s a killer.
That's an astitute and accurate read on the culture. Unfortunately, according to the article, it makes you a RACIST!
ethnic homogenous societies like Korea are more disciplined... with penalties for non-compliance severe.
in confucian systems, the gov’t is seen in a parental capacity - therefore obedience is expected
I purposely commented before reading the article. I knew the Atlantic would emphasize and praise government strong-arm tactics (which they did), and ignore the foundation of all aspects of their social stability and “social contract” - Korea's complete racial/ethnic/linguistic/historic homogeneity.
Maybe a monolithic mono-culture that looks out for it’s own.
I swear the average Korean/Japanese neighbor are closer to each other than the average family member in the US.
Diversity is NOT a strength!
No HIPPA laws to get in the way of containment.
“The government used a combination of interviews and cellphone surveillance to track down the recent contacts of new patients and ordered those contacts to self-isolate as well”
The earliest and most devastating numbers of fatalities in the US were in senior living homes. In many cases these are understaffed and poorly maintained with shared facilities that contributed to rapid spread. Coupled with co-morbidities like obesity and diabetes, the virus went through these homes like wildfire.
I can’t say for certain but I believe the use of concentrated senior living facilities is not very prevalent in Asian cultures. The aged parents are cared for by the younger children from a sense of obligation and reverence. Although they share homes with younger people they are not housed in dormitories with other seniors where a single infection from the outside can spread to many more seniors in a short time.
Exactly.
I don’t want to stir up the anti-vaxxers on FR, but the following is interesting, at least “anecdotally”.
Hong Kong, comparable in population to New York City, has had only four deaths attributed to the virus, while New York has close to 12,500 deaths. Years ago a measles outbreak occurred in Hong Kong and authorities there aggressively began vaccinating the population with the MMR vaccine.
Such a widespread measles outbreak also occurred in South Korea that also resulted in a massive vaccination program, and again the coronavirus mortality rate there is low.
Americans tend to be fat, that’s a killer.
Not here.
If someone with a medical degree says something we don’t like, we think they are evil. We allow the loudest and biggest bullies to shout down people with knowledge.
There are times when we deserve everything we get. It will be fun to watch when this comes back worse in September.
The article doesn’t once mention Hydroxychloroquine or Chloroquine or zinc. That is what S. Korea uses. Plus wearing masks all the time, which it does mention. So no point in reading.
I’ve been ignoring any pontificating, bloviating or the opinions of any sort by anyone without a MD since this began. If they didn’t do a residency and/or have an advanced graduate degree in epidemiology they should STFU.
Americans do not trust federal government agencies and ideas that come down from there, and there are good reasons for that.
Consequently there is a distrust of government mandates in America that may not exist in Korea.
It likely begins with too much and took much taken too far gets mandated out of Washington D.C. The results are less of federalist cooperation between Washington D.C. and states, than of states and localities forced to operate under federal dictates. The whole progressive enterprise of the unitary regulated state kills the sense and spirit of cooperation, often just when it is needed.
And yes, “cultural” diversity (as opposed to ethnic or “racial” diversity) is not an asset when it comes to social issues that require everyone getting on the same page. Does that make “immigration” wrong? No, and yes. The problem is an excess of immigration that keeps exceeding successful assimilation. That is not a “racist” statement. It is a human reality.
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