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IDPH Director explains how Covid deaths are classified: Those in hospice, given a few weeks to live, infected with Covid-19, classified as Covid-19 deaths
Week,com ^ | 05/06/2020 | Lauren Melendez

Posted on 05/06/2020 8:43:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

(CHICAGO) WEEK - State Health officials have acknowledged a bending of the "Covid Curve" seeing smaller spikes in positive cases, or rather, not as exponential of a jump as recorded weeks ago when virus testing capability was much lower.

Additionally, despite the additional virus-related deaths being reported everyday, Illinois Department of Public Health reports those numbers are decreasing too.

Still, the department's Director, Dr. Ngozi Ezike used part of her time during Sunday's health briefing to explain how the department determines if a death is related to Coronavirus.

Essentially, Dr. Ezike explained that anyone who passes away after testing positive for the virus is included in that category.

"If you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means technically even if you died of a clear alternate cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it's still listed as a COVID death. So, everyone who's listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that that was the cause of the death, but they had COVID at the time of the death." Dr. Ezike outlined.

She reiterated Illinois health officials will continue to work vigorously to protect the state's most vulnerable populations.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: covid19; covidcaptivity; covidphobia; deathrate; hysteriavirus; illinois
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1 posted on 05/06/2020 8:43:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

btt


2 posted on 05/06/2020 8:44:41 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY (The media is corrupt)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is an upside to the Covid pandemic.
Apparently it reduces or eliminates all other causes of death.


3 posted on 05/06/2020 8:45:58 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: SeekAndFind

So in other words, the same way they count Flu deaths. Except this is more careful, because in Flu deaths they rarely even bother testing.


4 posted on 05/06/2020 8:47:06 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

Yes.

But sadly is a boon to registering Democrat voters....


5 posted on 05/06/2020 8:48:09 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

RE: Apparently it reduces or eliminates all other causes of death.

The most obvious one being traffic accidents, where nearly 35,000 on average die each year.

As for the other disease related illnesses.... that remains to be seen.


6 posted on 05/06/2020 8:49:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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They have to get those numbers up now so they can blame Trump for opening the country too early. There is even a financial incentive, a WuFlu death gets you an additional $30,000 from the Fed.


7 posted on 05/06/2020 8:49:14 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

shoplifting has gone way down...


8 posted on 05/06/2020 8:49:23 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hospice patient deaths being added into Covid death counts help add fear and panic. Was medical treatment withheld because of their hospice status?


9 posted on 05/06/2020 8:50:41 AM PDT by proud2beconservativeinNJ ("In God We Trust")
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To: SeekAndFind

This is all driven by the U.S. news media. This video shows that almost all the deaths they say are due to this corona virus are not due to corona virus but due to other flus, H1N1 ,pneumonia, cancer, old age etc :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfG9nmAnQp4

This is a hoax just to defeat Trump in the election. They are destroying the economy for just another regular flu.


10 posted on 05/06/2020 8:54:57 AM PDT by rurgan (Democrats are socialists. Vote for Trump or the US will be Venezuela)
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To: SeekAndFind

And the scam goes on....


11 posted on 05/06/2020 9:00:50 AM PDT by Navin Johnson
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To: SeekAndFind
The whole counting process is a joke.

When the government started paying the hospitals a bounty on COVID patients ($13,000 if CV-19 is even "suspected" and $39,000 if the patient is ventilated), any semblance of accurate reporting went out the window.

12 posted on 05/06/2020 9:01:42 AM PDT by skimbell
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“Hospice patient deaths being added into Covid death counts help add fear and panic.”
I’m curious, are there really people stupid enough to believe flubros, and more of them come out of the woodwork each day? Or are there just 2 or 3 people who create new accounts every day to make it seem as though conservatives who read Free Republic are incredibly stupid?

Another day, same old BS. To confirm the Covid real mortality rate you can look at excess deaths, the number of deaths in excess of normal.
In an average year 57,000 people die of all causes in New York City. That is an average of 158 per day. Below is the number of deaths from Covid in NYC.
Math test - find the number of deaths in the column below which is lower than 158. One day out of the last month had a lower number.

4-4 387 2254 244.94%
4-5 218 2472 137.97%
4-6 266 2738 168.35%
4-7 806 3544 510.13%
4-8 716 4260 453.16%
4-9 518 4778 327.85%
4-10 651 5429 412.03%
4-11 313 5742 198.10%
4-12 440 6182 278.48%
4-13 1167 7349 738.61%
4-14 556 7905 351.90%
4-15 2462 10367 1558.23%
4-16 1110 11477 702.53%
4-17 1235 12712 781.65%
4-18 528 13240 334.18%
4-19 443 13683 280.38%
4-20 744 14427 470.89%
4-21 565 14992 357.59%
4-22 419 15411 265.19%
4-23 437 15,848 276.58%
4-24 422 16,270 267.09%
4-25 403 16,673 255.06%
4-28 542 17,215 343.04%
4-29 374 17,589 236.71%
4-30 277 17,866 175.32%
5-1 365 18,231 231.01%
5-2 51 18,282 32.28%
5-3 424 18,706 268.35%
5-4 401 19,107 253.80%

New York City - not the State of New York, just the City of New York - has about 57,000 deaths per year which is 158 per day.
https://data.cityofnewyork.us/Health/New-York-City-Leading-Causes-of-Death/jb7j-dtam

https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-die-in-New-York-every-day

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/imm/covid-19-daily-data-summary-deaths.pdf


13 posted on 05/06/2020 9:01:56 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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To: SeekAndFind

$13,000 paid to Medicare for each CV case reported and $39,000 paid when patient is put on ventilator. No wonder every case becomes CV and why they wanted so many ventilators.


14 posted on 05/06/2020 9:06:10 AM PDT by carikadon (Don't mess with Texas)
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“$39,000 if the patient is ventilated”
Do you know what it costs to stay in the hospital for 10 days? Last procedure I had I was there for 6 hours and the bill was $28,000.
I would also think to have a Covid patient whose virus could infect the doctors and nurses and kill them might involve some additional expense.
This stuff about the $39,000 “bounty” is nonsense.

I am really tired of pointing out the obvious.


15 posted on 05/06/2020 9:10:32 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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To: brookwood
It don't like flubros, but here are some people I respect.
16 posted on 05/06/2020 9:13:51 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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With billions in aid from Uncle Sugar, somehow the medical “experts” have avoided sampling untested deaths for COVID-19. Perhaps there was an excuse when The End of the World models were in fashion.

That would give an idea of how many phono virus deaths are being counted.

A random sample of 150 would produce a MOE of about +/-8%.

Now why might they not want to do this?


17 posted on 05/06/2020 9:16:55 AM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: SeekAndFind

Covid Death?
Yes!
Cha-CHING!!!!!!!
Next.....


18 posted on 05/06/2020 9:18:28 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (Welcf theome to North Mexico, Gringo's it...)
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To: proud2beconservativeinNJ

I know of two cases personally where I think treatment was withheld.

My husband’s aunt was in an assisted living facility in New York (Long Island), and in fairly good health. Someone in her facility had CoVid, so they tested everyone. She tested positive but was asymptomatic. They moved her to hospice care for unknown reasons. Well, I think I know, and you can guess. It was a few days before she started to develop any symptoms. Her biggest complaint was that food didn’t taste good. So she stopped eating. Then she got a cough, then trouble breathing. Then kidney failure. To my knowledge, they gave her “comfort” care only. She passed about a week ago. She was 90, almost 91.

The other one was a friend whose Mom had dementia and was in a memory care facility. She started developing a cough and having trouble breathing, so she was tested and the result was positive for CoVid 19. She was taken to the hospital and started treatment, but her condition worsened. They stopped treatment and took her back to her previous facility where she stayed for another week, under sedation only. She passed on Saturday. She was 85. This was in New Jersey.


19 posted on 05/06/2020 9:26:32 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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Yet another piece of garbage from the paid trolls brigade.
Exactly what is it about this part of the OP don't you understand?
And when did all this miraculously transconfigrate from Illinois to New York City?
Read it:

Essentially, Dr. Ezike explained that anyone who passes away after testing positive for the virus is included in that category.

If you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means technically even if you died of a clear alternate cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it's still listed as a COVID death. So, everyone who's listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that that was the cause of the death, “

Seems clear enough to me. And it's from Illinois Department of Public Health Director, Dr. Ngozi Ezike herself.

20 posted on 05/06/2020 9:49:55 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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