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How to reopen society using medical science and logic
The Hill ^ | 5/3/20 | DR. SCOTT W. ATLAS

Posted on 05/03/2020 12:02:27 PM PDT by ifinnegan

We now have an even greater urgency, due to the severe and single-minded policies already implemented. Treating COVID-19 “at all costs” is severely restricting other medical care and instilling fear in the public, creating a massive health disaster, separate from a potential world poverty crisis with almost incalculable consequences. Half of neurosurgery patients still refuse to come in for treatment of diseases that if left untreated risk brain hemorrhage, paralysis and death, even when their doctors directly reassure them. That’s just one subset of the latest reports of skipping two-thirds to three-fourths of cancer screenings, most childhood vaccinations and treatment for new strokes and known cancer.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dratlas; reopen
This guy from Stanford should replace Fauci.

This lockdown is going to kill way more than it saved.

1 posted on 05/03/2020 12:02:27 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

Medical science and logic are unavailable to Democrat congresscritters and the media. After all, were those groups capable of useful work, they’d NOT be Democrat congresscritters and media slime.


2 posted on 05/03/2020 12:04:05 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: ifinnegan

Yay, Trump needs a “ replacement” for Fauci. Of at least more diverse medical rep on the national task force.


4 posted on 05/03/2020 12:05:06 PM PDT by silverleaf (President Trump: Do not trust China. China is asshoe!)
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To: ifinnegan

If it seems like it’s too bad to be true, it probably isn’t.


5 posted on 05/03/2020 12:05:17 PM PDT by equaviator (If it seems like it's too bad to be true, then it probably isn't.)
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To: ifinnegan

I see a lot of complaints about Fauci and pointing fingers at Trump. But Trump having him in as an “advisor” was not started by Trump. It was started by the republican senators:

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/486870-gop-senators-tell-trump-to-make-fauci-face-of-governments-coronavirus

Trump is using the advice of the senate republicans and is giving it a chance to blossom. Factually, there is no one in the US that has a more wide-reaching amount of experience in the US than Fauci on this topic. Out of the article:

“Fauci was reported as director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases in 1984 and has advised six presidents on a variety of domestic and global health issues. He oversees a $5.9 billion annual budget.”

That gives him at least 52 years at the facility researching, directing and funding the research on diseases like C-19. Before that Dr. Fauci attended Cornell Medical College before beginning his long career at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) in 1968.

Got anyone else? No one comes to mind with me. And remember, this virus in unprecedented in its RNA breakdown with things that, in theory, could not have happened in nature like this. So Fauci and Trump are trying to travel in un-walked territory and so far, have been adequate in their efforts. So until someone else is selected that is better qualified, you dance with who you brought. Just like we elected Donald Trump.

rwood


6 posted on 05/03/2020 12:38:39 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: ifinnegan

People or their doctors are delaying a lot medical procedures, exams, analysis, tests, day surgeries and ???? due to the over reaction to this viruses. Many clinics and same day care units have been closed since mid March.

Mayo’s is a classic example of this impact.

Mayo Clinic furloughs, cuts hours of 30,000 employees to help ...www.beckershospitalreview.com › finance › mayo-clini...

Apr 23, 2020 - The furloughs or reduced hours affect about 42 percent of Mayo Clinic’s 70,000 employees across its campuses in Arizona, ... In addition, senior managers will receive pay cuts of 15 percent and top ... The financial impact of COVID-19 & how hospitals are planning their recovery ...


7 posted on 05/03/2020 12:40:02 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Are the ChiComs/PRC, ESPN of America's, fake news media/CNN, Democrats, the real Deep Staters?)
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To: Redwood71

Couldn’t agree with you more. But I’m waiting for replies from those wit Fauci Derangement Syndrome.


8 posted on 05/03/2020 1:15:09 PM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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To: ifinnegan

and destroy the lives of millions of people for overreaction and 24/7 hyped amped feareporting.


9 posted on 05/03/2020 1:26:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Da Coyote

They had a lot of scientists in ussr in the 30’s how did that work out?


10 posted on 05/03/2020 1:49:24 PM PDT by genghis
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To: TexasKamaAina; Redwood71

Agreed!

Fauci is the messenger delivering bad news. Don’t shoot the messenger. He is also a key part of the team keeping the news from becoming worse. That is, Fauci and 2,000 others, with a budget of over $5 billion, are on the case.

From what I’ve observed, Fauci and Brix are giving the advice they’re paid to give — without political biases. Their medical advice needs to be balanced against advice from other perspectives (economics, finance, security, etc.) — but, that’s where the President and V.P. come in. If they get unvarnished advice from each of their experts; they can synthesize a strategy from that. I think that’s what’s happening.


11 posted on 05/03/2020 3:09:18 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: ifinnegan

The only way to end this is via herd immunity. The young have very little danger from this disease. The old as I am, or those with other serious comorbidity are those at risk.

Society needs to isolate those at risk and oddly encourage the disease to run through society of those not at great risk. This will give us “herd immunity” and the disease will die out.

A vaccine is many months away and may or may not work. We have been searching for a vaccine for Aids since 1985. There is none.

If we continue with this insane lock down Western Society will collapse due to economics. What would follow would be bad in the exteme.


12 posted on 05/03/2020 3:49:05 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, oil field trash, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, Constitution worth dying for)
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If we only expose the young and healthy to the virus, will that tend to make it more contagious and more deadly, since it won’t kill its hosts? If we only expose the old and sick, wouldn’t that lead to the virus running out of hosts and burning out?

While neither of these extremes will happen, I’m wondering if there’s a narrow range of equilibria that are possible. We may not be able to affect the final bill much.


13 posted on 05/03/2020 5:53:23 PM PDT by Tymesup
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“If we only expose the young and healthy to the virus, will that tend to make it more contagious and more deadly, since it won’t kill its hosts? “

No. The young and healthy will contract the disease and recover. They then have immunity and are no longer a vector for the disease. As the number of vectors decrease less and less cases are transmitted.


14 posted on 05/03/2020 6:15:29 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, oil field trash, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, Constitution worth dying for)
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By your logic anyone arbitrarily deemed elderly or “at risk” is doomed to self-isolation until they die...hopefully of something else.

Maybe some of us in those categories would rather take our chances on the WuFlu than be condemned to such a miserable existence.


15 posted on 05/03/2020 8:26:24 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: cpdiii

Ok, I left something out. Suppose the virus mutates to something more deadly, but not deadly enough to kill the young and healthy. Is it not now more dangerous to the old and sick?


16 posted on 05/04/2020 1:41:45 PM PDT by Tymesup
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