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Sweden says its relaxed coronavirus approach has worked. The numbers suggest a different story
WCVB ^ | 04/28/2020 | Emma Reynolds

Posted on 04/28/2020 12:07:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 04/28/2020 12:07:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Won’t know for sure until much later this year.


2 posted on 04/28/2020 12:08:25 PM PDT by CatOwner
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It’s a CNN story. Nuff said.


3 posted on 04/28/2020 12:10:43 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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Yep - and the odds are that many in Sweden eschewed the “social distancing” which may have bumped the numbers up...but time will tell.


4 posted on 04/28/2020 12:11:25 PM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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RE: Won’t know for sure until much later this year.

If, God forbid, a second wave re-appears much later during the colder months, we shall see whether Sweden’s “herd immunity” approach worked better. For now, it’s too soon to tell.

Pay now or pay later, you pay anyway. It depends on HOW MUCH you will have to pay.


5 posted on 04/28/2020 12:11:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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There are only two things government does well; kill people and sell monopolies.

Government pretty much sucks at everything else.


6 posted on 04/28/2020 12:12:18 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed the Communist Revolution would arrive disguised as the common cold?)
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Sweden is the turd in the globalist’s punch bowl.


7 posted on 04/28/2020 12:13:42 PM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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supposedly- according to some anyways- people can reinfected by this virus- so how is herd immunity going to help if that is truly the case? IF, and it’s a big if- this virus infects more than once, then there is no such thing as immunity- but let’s not forget=- tests have been faulty right along- so who knows if people have gotten it twice or more or not?


8 posted on 04/28/2020 12:16:56 PM PDT by Bob434
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I always tell my lib dimwit friends that Trump is critical of Sweden’s response to corona.

I tell them Sweden did a full lock down and those morons NEVER fecking check....

Sad...


9 posted on 04/28/2020 12:17:01 PM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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...And IF herd immunity doesn’t work and you can catch it again, how will a vaccine help?


10 posted on 04/28/2020 12:19:12 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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Sweden’s case fatality rate is > 12%.

Implying that they aren’t testing any but the sickest patients.

Their cases are vastly understated. Even as their deaths per population are higher than their neighbors. (But not higher than Italy as flubros point out.)


11 posted on 04/28/2020 12:20:45 PM PDT by DannyTN
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Sweden will not have the second wave that wimpy countries are going to have. I always knew Swedes were smart. Now if they would just get rid of their ultra-liberal government!


12 posted on 04/28/2020 12:21:03 PM PDT by I want the USA back (I fear my government more than the bug. I hate that which makes me afraid. And the media.)
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don’t know- unless it makes it less severe- perhaps herd immunity will make it a bit less severe second time around too- i dunno-


13 posted on 04/28/2020 12:23:52 PM PDT by Bob434
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Way too soon to draw conclusions about the Swedish approach...at a minimum wait and see how their population fares when the second wave materializes.


14 posted on 04/28/2020 12:24:51 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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You'll note that half-way through the CDC's "flatten the curve" graphs, the "do nothings" start dying at a much lower rate than the good Boy Scouts that comply with "protective measures". At that point, it starts looking really good to do nothing. Sweden is doing a lot more than nothing, but the principle is the same. And their peak doesn't threaten to exceed their healthcare system capacity.


15 posted on 04/28/2020 12:25:35 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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If passive antibodies don’t help against reinfection, then how can a vaccine actually help you?


16 posted on 04/28/2020 12:27:39 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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That’s a lot of blather and huff to obscure the fact that Sweden has probably achieved herd immunity with as many, if not fewer, deaths than will have to be achieved by the other countries under house arrest who are also causing great economic damage to their populace.


17 posted on 04/28/2020 12:27:49 PM PDT by Skywise
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If, God forbid, a second wave re-appears much later during the colder months, we shall see whether Sweden’s “herd immunity” approach worked better. For now, it’s too soon to tell.

Why wouldn't you try to build herd immunity now, while the temps are getting warmer and people can go outside and live healthier lives compared to being stuck in a room and inactive?

Waiting until the cold weather returns and everybody's resistance begins to fade is a terrible idea.

18 posted on 04/28/2020 12:28:44 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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A Flat curve has the same area underneath it as steep curve...Total deaths are the same.

A steep curve gets back to normal 3X sooner than a flat curve.

If the media was honest, they would tell people this.


19 posted on 04/28/2020 12:35:15 PM PDT by UNGN
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We already know for sure. Sweden has a population of 10 million. The US has 330 million. Multiply the CV deaths in Sweden by 33 and you get 77,055 compared to the current US total of 58,123. The US total doesn't include deaths caused by the shutdown.

Are the 20K less deaths worth the price we paid in shutting down the economy? Forget the additional $6 trillion in new debt, and just consider the loss in personal wealth and sweat equity. Or the damage done to the education of our children. Or the long term impact of not doing "elective" surgery and routine testing and treatment for cancer and other aliments. Or shutting down a major part of our healthcare system.

Now that we have real data, it is obvious that the CV is far less deadly than first thought. If we knew then what we know now, we should have used the Swedish model. Not even close.

20 posted on 04/28/2020 12:37:36 PM PDT by kabar
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