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North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un rumored to be dead
NY Post ^ | April 25, 2020 | 12:36pm | Dana Kennedy

Posted on 04/25/2020 11:18:18 AM PDT by conservative98

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To: teppe

Deny the deity of Christ at your own risk.

I guess you don’t believe in the Holy Spirit either.

Interesting since Scripture refers to Him so much.

I’ll take Scripture over the delusions of a serial polygamist and murderer any day.


681 posted on 05/08/2020 11:43:11 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; teppe
I’ll take Scripture over the delusions of a serial polygamist and murderer any day.

I will too MM. Mormonism was started by Satan, along with a host of other cults. 👎👎🔥🔥

682 posted on 05/09/2020 12:00:03 AM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force Officer, who graduated from Air Force pilot training, on 1 May 2020)
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To: teppe
More than anyone else, Athanasius is the reason why you guys believe in the doctrine of the Trinity, as the doctrine did not exist previously.

Really?

I got it from the Book.


Why didn't you guys get it from yours?


Book of Mormon:

Now Zeezrom said: Is there more than one God? And he answered, No. (Alma 11:28-29)

...and be arraigned before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, which is one Eternal God, to be judged according to their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil. (Alma 11:44)

...doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is one God, without end. Amen. (2 Nephi 31:21)

...praises with the choirs above, unto the Father, and unto the Son, and unto the Holy Ghost, which are one God, in a state of happiness which hath no end. (Mormon 7:7)

...power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son--And they are one God, yea, the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth. And thus the flesh becoming subject to the Spirit, or the Son to the Father, being one God, (Mosiah 15:3-5)

...of Jared, that whoso should possess this land of promise, from that time henceforth and forever, should serve him, the true and only God, or they should be swept off when the fulness of his wrath should come upon them. (Ether 2:8)


"Behold, I am Jesus Christ the Son of God. I created the heavens and the earth, and all things that in them are. I was with the Father from the beginning. I am in the Father, and the Father in me; and in me hath the Father glorified his name." (3 Nephi 9:15)


"And again the Lord called others, and said unto them likewise; and he gave unto them power to baptize. And he said unto them: On this wise shall ye baptize; and there shall be no disputations among you. Verily I say unto you, that whoso repenteth of his sins through your words and desireth to be baptized in my name, on this wise shall ye baptize them--Behold, ye shall go down and stand in the water, and in my name shall ye baptize them. And now behold, these are the words which ye shall say, calling them by name, saying: Having authority given me of Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen. And then shall ye immerse them in the water, and come forth again out of the water. And after this manner shall ye baptize in my name; for behold, verily I say unto you, that the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost are one; and I am in the Father, and the Father in me, and the Father and I are one...And thus will the Father bear record of me, and the Holy Ghost will bear record unto him of the Father and me; for the Father, and I, and the Holy Ghost are one." (3 Nephi 11:22-27, 36)

683 posted on 05/09/2020 4:36:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
Man may become Gods (NOT God the Father!) in Early Christianity.

Sorry dude; but NONE of that is Scripture.

Try again.

684 posted on 05/09/2020 4:38:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
Which portions of LDS scripture do YOU believe?

ALL of it??


 

Now Zeezrom said: Is there more than one God? And he answered, No. (Alma 11:28-29)



Now Joseph conjured:

Doctrine and Covenants:

According to that which was ordained in the midst of the Council of the Eternal God of all other gods before this world was, that should be reserved unto the finishing and the end thereof, when every man shall enter into his eternal presence and into his immortal rest. (Section 121:32)

And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that covenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God. And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and everlasting covenant, and it is sealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of promise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the keys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them--Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit thrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths--then shall it be written in the Lamb's Book of Life, that he shall commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their exaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the seeds forever and ever. Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them. (Section 132:18-20)

Abraham received concubines, and they bore him children; and it was accounted unto him for righteousness, because they were given unto him, and he abode in my law; as Isaac also and Jacob did none other things than that which they were commanded; and because they did none other things than that which they were commanded, they have entered into their exaltation, according to the promises, and sit upon thrones, and are not angels but are gods. (Section 132:37)

 

 



 Poor, ol' Zeezrom; fooled by God#n once again...

685 posted on 05/09/2020 4:44:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
So were the Apostolic Fathers also Non-Christians?

Were THESE guys non-Mormons???


An 1830 statement titled "Testimony of Three Witnesses"—one statement signed by three men rather than three separate statements—was published at the end of the first edition of the Book of Mormon:

Be it known unto all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, unto whom this work shall come: That we, through the grace of God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, have seen the plates which contain this record, which is a record of the people of Nephi, and also of the Lamanites, his brethren, and also of the people of Jared, who came from the tower of which hath been spoken. And we also know that they have been translated by the gift and power of God, for his voice hath declared it unto us; wherefore we know of a surety that the work is true. And we also testify that we have seeen [sic] the engravings which are upon the plates; and they have been shewn unto us by the power of God, and not of man. And we declare with words of soberness, that an angel of God came down from heaven, and he brought and laid before our eyes, that we beheld and saw the plates, and the engravings thereon; and we know that it is by the grace of God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, that we beheld and bear record that these things are true. And it is marvellous [sic] in our eyes. Nevertheless, the voice of the Lord commanded us that we should bear record of it; wherefore, to be obedient unto the commandments of God, we bear testimony of these things. And we know that if we are faithful in Christ, we shall rid our garments of the blood of all men, and be found spotless before the judgment-seat of Christ, and shall dwell with him eternally in the heavens. And the honor be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost, which is one God. Amen.


686 posted on 05/09/2020 4:46:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Reily
This thread HAD a powerful man; controlling his nation with an iron fist for 200 or so replies.

It merely switched to another powerful man; controlling his easily fooled worshipers with a ROD of iron.

687 posted on 05/09/2020 4:53:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; HereInTheHeartland; Reily; teppe
THIS Bozo (Elsie) started it; by merely posting some Mormon Scripture in #200.

This other Bozo (teppe) then went nuts; seeing that precious LDS scripture had been used by a Gentile; wrote THIS --> I got sick of the hate/distortions/innuendo which you two embrace/take joy in. <-- in #206; and then the fight was on!!!

688 posted on 05/09/2020 5:02:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; teppe
For instance, it turns out his “Prophet” said there were people living on the moon, …

teppe wants to try hang the albatross of Anthanasias' words on Christianity; but absolutely REFUSES to get rid of the reeking words of JS that hang around HIS neck!


I guess there must be a LOT of One Way streets in Salt Lake City.

689 posted on 05/09/2020 5:06:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Needs a hat...

HELL no!!!!

Give him one of those and he might find another religion in it!


Oh... Wait...

690 posted on 05/09/2020 5:08:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
How does the Doctrine of the Trinity explain how Jesus Christ has a God?

It's His humanity speaking.

If your mind hadn't been confused by the teaching that the FATHER also has a body of flesh; you might be able to parse the words you copied from the first part of your Quad.

691 posted on 05/09/2020 5:11:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
Which one is the real you?




(What Mormons hope for; at least the few that have met ALL the qualifications of the Church.)

692 posted on 05/09/2020 5:17:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
So, according to the Bible, does Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior have a God?

His human side?

Yes.

693 posted on 05/09/2020 5:19:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee,

Have anyone noticed that the First Vision denies this by having TWO personages?

694 posted on 05/09/2020 5:22:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
Even the BoM says:

"Behold, I am Jesus Christ the Son of God. I created the heavens and the earth, and all things that in them are. I was with the Father from the beginning. I am in the Father, and the Father in me; and in me hath the Father glorified his name."
(3 Nephi 9:15)

695 posted on 05/09/2020 5:24:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe

Defend your Mormon faith. You can’t. Mormonism is a fraud masquerading as Christian. You can’t defend it because it doesn’t exist. Your god doesn’t exist, the Jesus you say you worship does not exist. There is nothing at all redeeming about the fake religion of Mormonism.


696 posted on 05/09/2020 6:12:24 AM PDT by SkyDancer (~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: teppe

Teppe, sorry, but same answer.

You haven’t answered a single question I asked you. 15 so far.

Now you want to ask me questions?

Talk to the hand dude.

And use Scripture?

I already pointed out you simply don’t understand Scripture as a non-Christian.

And besides that, you believe in millions of Mormon gods having sex in the heavens.

It’s simply blasphemy.


697 posted on 05/09/2020 6:36:03 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: Elsie; teppe

“and then the fight was on!!!”

But no one has answered my question. Is Kim Jong Un still dead, and is he a Mormon?


698 posted on 05/09/2020 12:56:53 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Leave me alone, I have no incriminating evidence on the Clintons)
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To: Elsie
Even the BoM says:

"Behold, I am Jesus Christ the Son of God. I created the heavens and the earth, and all things that in them are. I was with the Father from the beginning. I am in the Father, and the Father in me; and in me hath the Father glorified his name."

(3 Nephi 9:15)

You didn’t actually expect the Mormon to believe the Book of Mormon did you? 🤗 I realize each Mormon probably believes different things, and has different tactics. This one, is a one trick pony, or maybe a 3 trick pony. He continues to harp on creeds, dead Romans and ECFs. I don’t rely on any of them. That fact, however, seems to go in one ear and out the other. I hope he has a nice eternity. 🔥🔥🔥

699 posted on 05/09/2020 3:27:15 PM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force Officer, who graduated from Air Force pilot training, on 1 May 2020)
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To: caww

Ping


700 posted on 05/09/2020 4:24:41 PM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force Officer, who graduated from Air Force pilot training, on 1 May 2020)
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