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If the ‘lockdowns’ didn’t work, why are we still enduring them instead of getting back to normal?
NOQ Report ^ | 23 April 20 | D Parker

Posted on 04/24/2020 7:25:42 AM PDT by Bruiser 10

Tucker Carlson asked a crucial question last night, making the case that the ‘lockdowns’ haven’t worked as advertised. Which leads to all-important follow up: If they haven’t worked, why are we causing the death by other means while destroying the economy in keeping its ‘non-essential’ parts locked down? Defining terms: How much of the economy has been ‘locked down’?

Let’s begin by pointing out that was never a total ‘lockdown’ or ‘shut down’ as implied in the authoritarian leftist media. Trying to obtain a precise valuation on how much of the economy was ‘locked down’ has been difficult. Estimates as low as 20 – 40% have been bandied about and it should be obvious that it was never 100%. Essential services have been up always been up and running.

Why is this an important question? Because the words we use frame the discussion. They literally set the terms of the debate, including certain concepts while excluding others. This is why the authoritarian left sets a high value in controlling the language.

Plainly speaking, the terms ‘lockdown’ or ‘shut down’ have certain implications, as is the case with the phrase ‘reopen’. The false implication is that the entire economy is akin to a light switch, with it either ‘on’ or ‘off’. That is clearly not the case; the essential parts of the economy are still functioning. By all indications, that is most of the economy, with only parts effectively ‘shutdown’.

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1 posted on 04/24/2020 7:25:42 AM PDT by Bruiser 10
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To: Bruiser 10

I’ll go out on a limb here and say the Left prefers a depression to a second Trump term. They’ve got the media on their side and Trump knows it all too well.


2 posted on 04/24/2020 7:27:34 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Bruiser 10

Well, we had to endure prohibition - for a while.


3 posted on 04/24/2020 7:27:42 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: Bruiser 10
Essential services have been up always been up and running

Essential to Whom??????????????
4 posted on 04/24/2020 7:28:18 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Bruiser 10

How wonderfully convenient for the Rats that this Virus hit just at the PERFECT TIME to sway the election...


5 posted on 04/24/2020 7:29:49 AM PDT by HypatiaTaught
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To: Bruiser 10

I’d say 20-40% is low as a lockdown estimate here in Pennsylvania. The governor shut down all “non-life-sustaining” businesses. As far as the consumer is concerned, you can buy food and gasoline and I don’t know what else. I’d say we’re closer to 70% locked down.


6 posted on 04/24/2020 7:30:35 AM PDT by JediJones (We must deport all liberals until we can figure out what the hell is going on.)
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To: Bruiser 10

The purpose of the lockdown was to assist and aid frontline medical personal in avoiding an onslaught of ICU cases.

As far as I can see, that goal was achieved, and I don’t mind having done it.

Extending the lockdown to include some other nebulous future criteria is a bunch of BS that no one should accept. Don’t change the rules in the middle of the game, not even going to let you, politicians can go to Hell.


7 posted on 04/24/2020 7:31:24 AM PDT by chris37 (China's Gift wasn't born in a bowl of bat soup.)
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To: eyeamok
Essential services have been up always been up and running


Not true. Gyms are closed, lots of patients cannot get heart procedures they need, etc.
8 posted on 04/24/2020 7:32:29 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( Stop the fearmongering! Post flu statistics along side COVID-19 statistics!)
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To: Bruiser 10
Ah, but they did contribute to some undefined extent by "flattening the curve" and not overloading hospitals when the Chinese Virus peaked. This happened two weeks ago, so the "reason" for the lockdown has expired.

We're still locked down because politicians and experts have changed the reason to "control of the virus". The real reason is that politicians -- even mediocre politicians such as most are -- are loathe to give up their vast, new, self-anointed powers over American citizens and have learned that the Constitution and Bill of Rights can be suspended with full acquiesence of Americans if Americans can be frightened enough. QED.

9 posted on 04/24/2020 7:32:39 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: Rurudyne

That’s true, clearly,but it’s worse. The reason that America is not opening NOW is b/c even GOP leaders are loathe to admit that they screwed up massively. And that includes our President.


10 posted on 04/24/2020 7:34:01 AM PDT by alstewartfan (The shore was washed away.They say you hear church bells still as they toll beneath the waves. Al S)
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To: chris37
The purpose of the lockdown was to assist and aid frontline medical personal in avoiding an onslaught of ICU cases. As far as I can see, that goal was achieved, and I don’t mind having done it. Extending the lockdown to include some other nebulous future criteria is a bunch of BS that no one should accept. Don’t change the rules in the middle of the game, not even going to let you, politicians can go to Hell.


Absolutely. I have had enough.
11 posted on 04/24/2020 7:34:26 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( Stop the fearmongering! Post flu statistics along side COVID-19 statistics!)
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To: Bruiser 10

There is a large segment of the population that loves to feel the boot of the Government on their necks. This crap has allowed them to live out their dreams and they are taking full advantage of it. Don’t expect it to end soon.


12 posted on 04/24/2020 7:34:39 AM PDT by sport
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13 posted on 04/24/2020 7:34:46 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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Dr Death Fauci and “The Scarf” Birx have done more damage to the country by insisting Trump shut down the economy than anything the
RATs could ever do or say. After all, both of these hacks are RATs.
I bet Trump regrets putting them front and center. Neither one has ever
enjoyed this type of attention in their lifetimes.


14 posted on 04/24/2020 7:35:23 AM PDT by tennmountainman (The Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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To: CodeToad

Stupid post. Ignorance personified


15 posted on 04/24/2020 7:35:57 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Right. Pols assumed powers of rank totalitarians, and we caved.


16 posted on 04/24/2020 7:36:06 AM PDT by alstewartfan (The shore was washed away.They say you hear church bells still as they toll beneath the waves. Al S)
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To: Bruiser 10
The only thing the “lock downs” were suppose to do was prevent the healthcare system from becoming temporarily over burdened. That is not going to happen at this point. It was never going to happen outside of a few areas with very high population densities.
17 posted on 04/24/2020 7:36:15 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: Rurudyne
I’ll go out on a limb here and say the Left prefers a depression to a second Trump term.

You don't know how correct you are. In Spanish, it is said this way, "You burn your house down in order to burn the neighbor's house down whom you hate." That is exactly what the Democrats are doing.

18 posted on 04/24/2020 7:36:50 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: chris37

“The purpose of the lockdown was to assist and aid frontline medical personal in avoiding an onslaught of ICU cases.”

That’s like ringing a bell to keep the elephants away and claiming it works.

Sorry, but there simply wasn’t going to be a massive onslaught of COVID patients. How do I know, because the flu victims were the same number this year so all your anti-virus measures didn’t work at all. Besides, it takes a real dunce to think someone wearing a mask is all it takes to stop a virus.


19 posted on 04/24/2020 7:37:11 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: tennmountainman

that post is pure ignorance

Since you can’t understand what they say, you chose to denigrate them. Ignorance gone very very bad


20 posted on 04/24/2020 7:37:30 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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