Posted on 04/23/2020 4:21:40 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo revealed Thursday that preliminary results from a coronavirus antibody study show the statewide infection rate is 13.9 percent, which would mean around 2.7 million residents could have carried the disease. The 3,000 samples were collected from 40 sites in 19 counties, according to Cuomo, and suggested the infection rate is as high as 21.2 percent in places like New York City.
“These are people who were infected and who developed the antibodies to fight the infection,” Cuomo said. “They had the virus, they developed the antibodies and they are now ‘recovered’.” The governor says the testing was conducted at sites set up outside places like grocery and box stores. “These are people who were out and about shopping,” Cuomo said. “They were not people who were in their home, they are not people who are isolated, they are not people who are quarantined -- who you could argue probably had a lower rate of infection because they wouldn’t come out of the house.”
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1. This Wuhanic Plague is not nearly as bad as the fearmongers say it is because the CFR (Case Fatality Rate) is FAR lower than they have published.
2. The Chinese government is a total LIE. How can a country of a billion people end up with only 83,800 some cases and a super low death rate and we're overrun here with 258,000 cases and a FAR higher death rate of 49k plus with far less population (and density) and better healthcare? The lie they have told about this along with failure to inform the world in time when it broke out makes China the master criminal of the WORLD. Our leadership must IMMEDIATELY stop doing business with China, period.
Shhhhh don’t tell the fearpers. They will cry all night long and keep us adults awake.
And pence said this would behind us my Memorial Day
My wife and I go shopping once every two weeks. We don’t go every day right now.
Why is the word recovered in quotation marks...?
Depending on the antibody testing done, is it possible to know how long ago someone who has antibodies had the disease?
The last time I checked the PER CAPITA Coronavirus death rate for NYC was about .13%. If this survey is correct and a bit over 20% of NYC residence has been infected then those deaths are coming from about 1/5 of the NYC population.
.13% x 5. = .65%
Less than 1% but well over the advertised .1%.
What is your point with this comment? This study indicates that the mortality rate of this virus is orders of magnitude less than we have been told. It is also the latest in a string of studies that suggest the same thing. This is good news no matter how you slice it. In fact, if I see a couple more like this I’m going to declare the entire lock down an over reaction.....in retrospect.
Your math makes absolutely no sense. The number of deaths has not changed. What’s changed is the number of infections....by orders of magnitude. IF TRUE!!! This means that the virus is right in line with the flu. 3.4/100= 3.4%. 3.4/1000= 0.34%. Get it?
Nah. Sounds like a pretty good sample to me. Most people a least come out of their house to food shop.
There are a few who don't come out at all and at the other end of the spectrum, there are a few who are out everyday working.
Every study based on anti-body tests that I have seen “suggests” exactly the same thing. There is also a great deal of anecdotal evidence that suggests the same thing. On the fire department that I retired from 11 people tested positive 3 weeks ago. Only one developed any symptoms, which he assumed were from his seasonal problem with our sky high levels of tree pollen right now. All of them now test negative.
There are some markers in other disease, but my guess is for CoVID, it is not possible as to determine how long ago — just that it was present and cleared.
I agree completely, friend. My point is that on some other threads, there are some posters on freerepublic who are completely dedicated to spinning news into continuing lockdowns, yet denying that they are part of the problem. The are purveyors of fear porn...and they seem invested in the desecration of the free human spirit. It is utterly inexplicable.
I agree, and am fully prepared to say at this time that the entire lock down was a horrible overreaction and in the long run will have hurt far more than helped.
Thanks!
I’m making a PER CAPITA calculation. Total NYC Deaths divided by the population of NYC. This has nothing to do with how many infected people have been counted.
It does make the assumption that those who have died in NYC must have come from the infected population - about 20% of the population. So I just do a 5x on the rate.
But it is still a per capita rate. The number of deaths for the full population should be about 5x times what we see from the currently infected 20%. It does not have anything to do with the current death rate based on the case load which gives a much higher number.
The whole initiative to do broad based antibody testing is to allow an estimate of the percentage of the population that has been infected and to use it to project an actual death rate.
At least that’s the theory.
It is not even that bad. Take out half the deaths as being unconfirmed COVID19 that are probably attributable to regular flu or some other cause. Right now it is economically feasible to attribute all deaths to COVID19. Other than the increased transmission capability of the virus (similar to measles) this virus is no worse and probably less dangerous than regular flu.
“The last time I checked the PER CAPITA Coronavirus death rate for NYC was about .13%. If this survey is correct and a bit over 20% of NYC residence has been infected then those deaths are coming from about 1/5 of the NYC population.
.13% x 5. = .65%
Less than 1% but well over the advertised .1%.”
Don’t use math when arguing with “Flubros”, it just makes them angry and frustrated.
Also note - a lot of the infected are in critical condition / last legs / one foot in the grave
“IF TRUE!!! This means that the virus is right in line with the flu. 3.4/100= 3.4%. 3.4/1000= 0.34%. Get it?”
There were 34,157 flu deaths for all of last year. Coronavirus has already exceeded that.
“Your math makes absolutely no sense. The number of deaths has not changed. What’s changed is the number of infections....by orders of magnitude. IF TRUE!!! This means that the virus is right in line with the flu. 3.4/100= 3.4%. 3.4/1000= 0.34%. Get it?”
Cite data sources when posting falsehoods please, so we can all see where the lies are coming from. Seasonal flu death rate last year was about .1% of SYMPTOMATIC CASES, not total infections.
The quoted death rate of .1% for seasonal flu is the number of deaths over the number of SYMPTOMATIC flu cases. Those without symptoms are not part of the denominator. It is estimated (see link below) that 75% of regular flu cases show no symptoms. This brings the infection fatality rate for regular flu from .1% to .025% if you count infected people instead of just symptomatic people. Covid19 is at least 10 times deadlier than the flu, you can distort the numbers however you want, you can believe whatever you want, but no one can make a plausible argument that Covid19 isn’t 10 times deadlier than the seasonal flu, no matter how hard they try.
https://www.nhs.uk/news/medical-practice/three-quarters-of-people-with-flu-have-no-symptoms/
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html
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