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How China Sees the World [long but well worth the read ]
Atlantic mag. ^ | May 2020 | H.R.McMaster

Posted on 04/19/2020 8:52:47 AM PDT by nuconvert

The Forbidden City

On November 8, 2017, Air Force One touched down in Beijing, marking the start of a state visit hosted by China’s president and Communist Party chairman, Xi Jinping. From my first day on the job as President Donald Trump’s national security adviser, China had been a top priority. The country figured prominently in what President Barack Obama had identified for his successor as the biggest immediate problem the new administration would face—what to do about North Korea’s nuclear and missile programs. But many other questions about the nature and future of the relationship between China and the United States had also emerged, reflecting China’s fundamentally different perception of the world.

Since the heady days of Deng Xiaoping, in the late 1970s, the assumptions that had governed the American approach to our relationship with China were these: After being welcomed into the international political and economic order, China would play by the rules, open its markets, and privatize its economy. As the country became more prosperous, the Chinese government would respect the rights of its people and liberalize politically. But those assumptions were proving to be wrong.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; mcmaster
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This is from McMaster's soon to be released book, - Battlegrounds: The Fight to Defend the Free World .

It should be required reading for all government workers, all business owners & CEO's doing business in China, and anyone who wants a scary look at what China is really doing & what it really wants.

1 posted on 04/19/2020 8:52:47 AM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

chicom bump for later...….


2 posted on 04/19/2020 8:55:27 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: nuconvert

Bkmrk


3 posted on 04/19/2020 8:57:18 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("Progressives" (elitist Communists) "Love you to death".)
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To: nuconvert

Ping


4 posted on 04/19/2020 8:58:05 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: nuconvert

This is from the Atlantic Magazine?


5 posted on 04/19/2020 8:59:48 AM PDT by HangnJudge (China Lied, People died, Never Forget, this Decade's 9-11)
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To: nuconvert

From NWO shill McMaster and the Atlantic! No thanks!!


6 posted on 04/19/2020 9:00:12 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: nuconvert

It’s a good article except for the very end where he calls for more visas etc... for Chinese in America. I guess he is trying to remain viable for some future administration.


7 posted on 04/19/2020 9:00:18 AM PDT by Stingray51
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One day we’ll actually understand the evil that lurks behind the innocuous wish that China, or any other Third World country “open her markets”. Something to do with “money” markets and borrowing and manufacture. China is self sufficient in raw materials, just like the US colonies were self sufficient in raw materials. That worries the globalist banking elite who don’t like it when countries don’t come crawling to them for loans to build infrastructure or compensate for manipulated commodity prices.


8 posted on 04/19/2020 9:00:45 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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From NWO shill McMaster

He's only calling china out because the Davos types assumed that they themselves would be the Acadians at the top controlling the global fascist order, not the chinee.

9 posted on 04/19/2020 9:05:32 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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He is an NWO neocon who got fired!! Need we say more!


10 posted on 04/19/2020 9:05:33 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: nuconvert

Excellent read!


11 posted on 04/19/2020 9:08:57 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: nuconvert

Great read will definitely get this book


12 posted on 04/19/2020 9:23:28 AM PDT by panzerkamphwageneinz
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To: nuconvert

Great read. Thank you for posting.


13 posted on 04/19/2020 9:28:02 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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“It’s a good article except for the very end where he calls for more visas etc”

That bothered me too, though he did say, “with proper safeguards in place”. I’m not sure the liberals would allow that. If you think that we may be about at the point of no return, so to speak, because we’ve already given China all the tools & information to be able to continue to advance on their own, then using the Chinese diaspora to turn against the Chinese gov’t may be a strategy worth using - it hasn’t been effectively utilzed


14 posted on 04/19/2020 9:29:43 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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McMaster is an idiot who should have never been allowed more than running a tank battalion. He’s right about the Chinese worldview. But his idiotic conclusion is to bring more Chinese into America. Of course with the obligatory “carefully vetted” disclaimer.

This damned traitor screwed and resisted President Trump all he could. Eff him.


15 posted on 04/19/2020 9:42:18 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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I would say they see the world as a bunch of idiots who will buy their cheap junk, then die in an engineered pandemic to clear the land for their settlers.

Maybe that’s a bit harsh. Maybe it’s just Chairman Xi and a few of his pals. Maybe some more sensible people will push him out of power. We shall see.


16 posted on 04/19/2020 9:43:41 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Pray for health, economic recovery, and justice.)
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To: nuconvert

A must read article...thanks for posting it.

“Our last meeting of the state visit, in the Great Hall of the People, was with Li Keqiang, the premier of the State Council and the titular head of China’s government. If anyone in the American group had any doubts about China’s view of its relationship with the United States, Li’s monologue would have removed them. He began with the observation that China, having already developed its industrial and technological base, no longer needed the United States. He dismissed U.S. concerns over unfair trade and economic practices, indicating that the U.S. role in the future global economy would merely be to provide China with raw materials, agricultural products, and energy to fuel its production of the world’s cutting-edge industrial and consumer products.”


17 posted on 04/19/2020 9:48:32 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: nuconvert

Safeguards are not just not practical. We have something like 15,000 FBI agents. We have hundreds of thousands of Chinese students in the US plus other visa holders etc. How could our government (!) possibly keep a handle on that?


18 posted on 04/19/2020 9:52:06 AM PDT by Stingray51
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To: nuconvert
In 2014 and then again in 2017, the party declared that all Chinese companies must collaborate in gathering intelligence. “Any organization or citizen,” reads Article 7 of China’s National Intelligence Law, “shall support, assist with, and collaborate with the state intelligence work in accordance with the law, and keep the secrets of the national intelligence work known to the public.”

How does any publicly traded US company justify having anybody employed that is a Chinese national?

They are by definition spies - why hire people who are known spies?

19 posted on 04/19/2020 10:09:01 AM PDT by datricker (Cut Taxes Repeal ACA Deport DACA - Americans First, Build the Wall, Lock her up MAGA!)
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To: nuconvert; Stingray51

“It’s a good article except for the very end where he calls for more visas etc”

That part raised a bit of red flag too.

I think he’s coming from the point of view that our way is so much superior that once the Chinese get exposed to our way of life they would not want to go back to their old way and would promote our way if they went back.

There’s some truth to that, after all the Soviets were very leery at exposing their people to our living standards and freedoms in the west, and eventually it was that that brought down the USSR.

But China today doesn’t seem to be afraid to expose its people to the western life style, because having adopted a certain level of capitalism, they have achieved a good standard of living themselves.

So China today is not so much about exporting communism as about Nationalism. They, like us, are looking out for their national interests first and foremost. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that, as long as we are cognizant of it and safeguard our own interests.

So in letting in so many people from China to study and work here we must not discounts how much national pride and identity politics plays into this equation.


20 posted on 04/19/2020 10:19:40 AM PDT by aquila48
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