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No matter how you cut the data, the mortality rate whether measured as deaths per 1 million residents or deaths per # of positive cases are far worse than the rest of the country, even other hot spots like Louisiana.

What is happening or not happening in New York to allow for this?

Is there some other underlying demographic that is outside of their health care system control?

1 posted on 04/19/2020 8:23:59 AM PDT by motoman
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Because it’s not the Flu.

NY’s numbers are not out of line with those in Europe.


2 posted on 04/19/2020 8:25:15 AM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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Dense population. Duh.


3 posted on 04/19/2020 8:26:57 AM PDT by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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The more different causes of death, the greater the number of deaths.

Heart attack, stroke, cancer, accidents, pneumonia etc.


4 posted on 04/19/2020 8:27:30 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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NYC had too many flights from Europe where it was infected at the time. Then people rode the subway spreading the virus. If it wasn’t for mass transit, I think we would had stopped it in time. Look at West Coast. They had flights from China but didn’t get out of control like NYC.


8 posted on 04/19/2020 8:28:50 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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Subway & Bus Riders Face Dangerously Crowded Conditions As MTA Reduces Service

https://gothamist.com/news/subway-bus-coronavirus-covid-19-crowded-mta


9 posted on 04/19/2020 8:28:54 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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Because they all live on top of each other and rode mass transit everyday.


10 posted on 04/19/2020 8:28:58 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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Have you ever been to NYC and taken the subway? If the virus was in the city in January when it was business-as-usual, then everyone in NYC has it.


11 posted on 04/19/2020 8:29:26 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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As one who works there daily (at least through March 13), it's no surprise to me. Packed subways and commuter trains. Streets jammed with pedestrians. Huge lines queued up at lunchtime hour at restaurants and food trucks. Crowded elevators. Then you have three major airports bringing in people from all over the world. Up until Trump did the travel ban from China, nearly 10 jumbo planes an hour on average came into the NYC area from China.

So not surprised this is the hardest hit area.

12 posted on 04/19/2020 8:29:29 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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The subways/buses. People in very close proximity to sick other people, no facemasks or other filters. Day after day. Then the virus builds and builds in these people before they get sick (have symptoms). Once they’re sick, their bodies have to go into a severe overdrive mode to fight it...making survival much tougher. Same in nursing homes - constant exposure...huge buildup, etc.

Compare that to others who might pick it up due to a one-time encounter, maybe at a store. They too get sick, but their bodies have time to ‘prep’ as the infection hits much slower. So they do better.

That’s your answer - and in several months our ‘experts’ will figure it out.


13 posted on 04/19/2020 8:30:15 AM PDT by BobL
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More deaths from the China Virus means more cash from Washington. NYC and North Eastern NJ, 2 Liberal sewers account for OVER half the total deaths in our country. Both areas are heavily debt ridden and always crying about the need to raise taxes to steal from the working people and hand it to the whiners.

Therefore they will take every opportunity to increase the claimed dead from the China Virus in order to get the cash they somehow believe they are entitled to.


16 posted on 04/19/2020 8:31:39 AM PDT by billyboy15
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Reasons:

1) Extensive travel from the Wusan epicenter by thousands of travelers to NYC/North Jersey major airports. The virus spreads to the local population.

2) Travel in the region in confined, sealed subways, commuter railroads and then packing into crowded elevators.

3) A large number of tourists, mass gatherings at parades, sporting events, restaurants and work sites.

The result. A raging pandemic caused by a novel virus in a population that has no inherent immunity. Of course made worse by vile, incompetent politicians


17 posted on 04/19/2020 8:33:39 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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90% of the deaths in Virginia are people 60 and over. I can’t imagine NYC numbers are that different.


19 posted on 04/19/2020 8:33:46 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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Limited sunshine and fresh air. Also older population.


20 posted on 04/19/2020 8:34:34 AM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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Perhaps because so many in NYC suffer from TDS, they would rather drown in their own mucus than take a medication promoted by the President. Perhaps the same goes for a great number of physicians, as demonstrated by the sweet Trump hating couple in Florida that tore down a neighbor’s flag. Think they’d ever prescribe hydroxychloroquine?


22 posted on 04/19/2020 8:34:42 AM PDT by Dogbert41 (Jerusalem is the city of the Great King!!!)
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Subways.


25 posted on 04/19/2020 8:35:45 AM PDT by dangus
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My theory is that traveling in subways means the folks who catch it do so with a high viral load.

“Under such circumstances the virus receives a massive jump start, leading to a massive innate immune response, which will struggle to control the virus to allow time for acquired immunity to kick-in while at the same time leading to considerable inflammation and a cytokine storm.

“For most of us, it’s hard to see how we could receive such a high dose; it’s going to be a rare event. In the COVID-19 clinic, the purpose of PPE is to prevent such large exposures leading to high dose infection.”

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-questions-about-covid-19-and-viral-load/

Those of us in more spread out areas, where almost no one ever spends time in a metal tube with a lot of strangers, may catch it in some repeated tiny doses, giving our bodies more time to ramp up a defense.

I also suspect general filth in a city raises the problem, which may be why Tokyo has done better than NYC.


26 posted on 04/19/2020 8:38:17 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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I think part of it may be the number of infected international arrivals funneled into NYC from Laguardia, JFK & Newark. A high% of people arriving in those airports stay in the NY area.

Then there are many more travelers of mass transit per capita than anywhere else in the USA.
There are lots of sections with high density of people, multi generational in tiny apartments sharing bedrooms & bathroom. Many of the newly immigrated (legal & illegal) share apartments with many young men or with several families.
The number of vagrants, the abandonment of health laws such as against public urination, the lifestyle where offices are open plan cubicles, people gather at bars, restaurants & night clubs, even the streets in Manhattan are cheek to jowl, all of these factors may have contributed.


28 posted on 04/19/2020 8:39:47 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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Because they’re lying.


30 posted on 04/19/2020 8:40:51 AM PDT by Baldwin77 (They hated Reagan too ! TRUMP TOUGH - AMERICA STRONG)
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Reporting. Don’t confuse reported numbers with actual numbers. The rats have incentive to inflate the actual numbers.


31 posted on 04/19/2020 8:41:25 AM PDT by matt1234
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“New York/NYC Mortality Rates shockingly high - Why?”

Maybe because de Blowsthehole originally said “COVID-19”...nothing to worry about...just continue your daily lifestyle of exposure?


33 posted on 04/19/2020 8:41:59 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (uff)
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