Posted on 04/17/2020 11:01:55 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
I decided to dive into the available data. What I discovered is that not only can people be infected and experience no symptoms or very mild symptoms for the first few days, but this coincides with when the so-called viral load — the amount of virus being emitted from an infected person’s cells — may be the highest. That makes the virus a truly formidable opponent in our densely packed, globally connected world. We’re going to have to be smarter than this virus to stay on top of it.
What does asymptomatic really mean?
Let’s start with the basics. Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of the emerging diseases and zoonoses unit at the World Health Organization, told me that the WHO so far has found few truly asymptomatic cases, in which a patient tests positive and has zero symptoms for the entire course of the disease. However, there are many cases where people are “pre-symptomatic,” where they have no symptoms at the time when they test positive but go on to develop symptoms later.
“Most of the people who were thought to be asymptomatic aren’t truly asymptomatic,” said Van Kerkhove. “When we went back and interviewed them, most of them said, actually I didn’t feel well but I didn’t think it was an important thing to mention. I had a low-grade temperature, or aches, but I didn’t think that counted.”
The WHO sent a team to China and visited community centers, clinics and hospitals, and transportation hubs. Through their data collection, the team found that about 75% of people who were initially classified as “asymptomatic” went on to develop symptoms, she said. This matches up with the CDC’s findings at the nursing facility. Of the 13 positive patients who initially reported no symptoms during testing,10 later developed symptoms.
(Excerpt) Read more at propublica.org ...
That is saying that it is virtually impossible to stop it from spreading without remaining or even intensifying our current Bubble Boy lifestyle.
That is not sustainable.
Democrats hit hardest.
Urban planners should be tarred and feathered everytime they try to prevent urban sprawl...
there are far worse viruses out there.
we don’t shut down our entire lives for them.
we don’t close the country because we lose tens of thousands of people to the various flu viruses every winter.
this whole idea of ‘beating’ such a virus is ridiculous. to wit we will never ‘beat’ the flu viruses or cold viruses.
PRO PUBLICA is an ULTRA LEFTIST site.
Why are we subjected to it on Free Republic?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/propublica-is-the-lefts-biggest-muckraker-you-never-heard-of
I’ll quote some parts from the link:
An obscure nonprofit investigative newsroom’s editor in chief is paid $585,117 a year and the group gives away its online stories for publication by big-time “partners,” including the New York Times, ABC World News, Salon.com and Associated Press. The 32 highly paid reporters seem to investigate only things liberals don’t like. The newsroom claims to work only “in the public interest” and to focus exclusively on stories with “moral force.”
Don’t bother asking “which public” or “whose morals.” You’re in a left-wing alternate universe 23 floors up in a New York City office building — the headquarters of ProPublica Inc.
George Soros gave $250,000 in 2010, and his Open Society Institute’s former vice president, Gara Lamarche, joined the board of directors, replacing Pew Charitable Trusts President Rebecca Rimel.
The Sandlers are relentlessly partisan, giving millions to the Democratic Party and its allies: $2.5 million to the MoveOn.org Voter Fund, $8.5 million to Citizens for a Strong Senate, and $2 million to the Center for American Progress, liberal think-tank of John Podesta, who led President-elect Barack Obama’s transition team in 2008.
Every time I hear about China and what they have done I think,”Nuke it from Space”.
[PRO PUBLICA is an ULTRA LEFTIST site.]
Why are we subjected to it on Free Republic?
Know your enemy.
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” - Sun Tzu
Likewise, we used jet and rocket research data from the Nazis and biological warfare data from the Japanese. In a similar vein, the smarter conservatives have realized that while Alinsky’s *goals* may have been deplorable, he refined and made practical some very effective tactics.
Never hesitate to learn from your enemy; Guderian and Rommel read DeGaul’s book on swift tank tactics, and Patton was an astute reader of Rommel’s. Anyone who ever hoped to effectively fight guerillas read Mao and Che unless they were an utter fool. Sun Tzu is studied by every military acadamy and indeed China will never do anything that wasn’t in the Art Of War millinia ago.
Exactly.. it’s not sustainable.. its not if, but when we’ll all get it, symptoms or not.
My understanding of the whole ‘social distancing’ drive is that we know everyone will be exposed to it, but if it’s spread out over a longer time, hospitals won’t be utterly overwhelmed and more time is bought to develop a vaccine and/or cure.
One problem is, medical professionals, seem to only focus on medical results, not the pain and destruction to economy and culture.
Looks like people are going to move out of the cities and back to the burbs.
Because the OP is a chicken-little who posts fear-mongering articles no matter where they are from. He's posted blatantly numerically wrong assertions from the beginning and never corrected any of them. It's bait for the easily frightened. I'm beginning to suspect some ulterior motives.
partnered In that case, if the hospitals in the area are NOT overwhelmed, then you are doing too much shutdown.
From the article: "COVID-19’s 'viral load profile' actually appears to be more similar to the flu [than to SARS or MERS] ..."
The idea that there are thousands of asymptomatic carriers who walk around endlessly spreading the virus is a myth. Whether or not you have symptoms, if you’ve been infected and you have a normal, functioning immune system (vast majority), your body will eventually overcome the virus and you will no longer harbor/shed the virus.
Actually, I don’t think you are correct.
What we need is massive widespread testing of *both* current infection and antibodies (recovered people). Currently, of course, we are only testing known symptomatic people. That is drastically limited and skews the statistics.
WHERE ARE THE PROMISED TESTS???
Not necessarily. After all, they are rats, and big cities are substantially rat infested!
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