Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro Fires Health Minister for Pushing Total Confinement, Something Bolsonaro Rejects — Brazil’s COVID-19 Deaths 8 Times Lower than New York State

TheGatewayPundit ^ | April 16 2020 | Jim Hoft

[SmokingJoe]

Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro fired his Health Minister Luiz Henrique Mandetta on Thursday. Dr. Mandetta wanted the Brazilian government to shut down its economy and enforce a total confinement of the population.

Jair Bolsonaro refuses to destroy his economy in confronting the virus.

Brazil today has 1,924 coronavirus deaths in a country of 207 million.

New York state has over 16,000 deaths in a state of 20 million.

New York as over 8 times the deaths of tropical Brazil with a population 10 times its size.

So far Jair Bolsonaro’s bold policies to save business and people’s livelihoods has paid off.

Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro has fired Thursday the country’s Health Minister Luiz Henrique Mandetta, a doctor by profession, who had previously reiterated earlier today that his departure from office was imminent after public discrepancies with the president.

“I just heard from President Jair Bolsonaro the notice of my dismissal from the Ministry of Health,” Mandetta, a supporter of the social isolation measures rejected by Bolsonaro, reported on his Twitter account.

[SmokingJoe]

Paging President Trump re firing Dr Death Fauci.

[Socon-Econ]

The “Trump of the tropics” is bolder than the Trump of the USA.

[cherry]

do they use anti malarial meds by any chance?

[SmokingJoe]

Probably. All tropical countries have a lot of malaria.

[gibsonguy]

Actually he doesn’t have massive opposition forces against him waiting for the least misstep so he has the luxury of being bolder. Believe this if this was April of 2021 we’d be seeing an entirely different ballgame.

[Grampa Dave]

Summer in Rio:

Summer is generally considered to include December, January, February and part of March. Rio has daylight savings time from middle of October through middle/late February. During this time, December and January are the hottest months with temperatures going over 104 Deg.

This virus does not do well in hot areas..

[DoodleBob]

This looks like a good place to post today's country- and state-level size- and time-indexed fatality statistics. This corrects for not just population differences but what I call the "Golf Problem" where broadcasts of the Masters etc have to show not only each golfer's score, but which hole they're at. I also list the Day 1 date and the population for reference.

Below are the data. Note for the US as nation, that Day 1 is March 25, which means Day 22 is April 15 for that row of data. You can do the math for the other municipalities to find out what Day XX means for them in calendar times; as a general rule, the last actual data point is the freshest date, but on a Golf timeline it gives each municipality's score as of the "22st hole."

America's rank vs other countries hasn't changed in days. Swedend's adjusted fatality count has been rather flat the past few days, which likely means a) they're fudging the numbers and 2) the US will surpass them tomorrow. That may not mean their 'hands off' approach is better. The US is a nation of non-homogeneous individualists, and our approach works best for us. I don't look to Sweden for gun control wisdom, and I'm not looking to other countries for wisdom on how to handle a pandemic. Sod 'em.

Country	Date of Day 1=day priot to hitting 1,000+ population-adjusted deaths	Population	Day 20	Day 21	Day 22	Day 23	Day 24	Day 25
San Marino	3/3/20	33,574	196,316	196,316	206,132	206,132	206,132	206,132
New York	3/20/20	19,795,791	104,348	117,650	130,585	143,621	156,240	167,410
Andorra	3/21/20	77,543	106,250	110,500	110,500	123,249	123,249	131,749
New Jersey	3/23/20	8,958,013	80,310	86,454	89,876	103,193	116,106	-
Spain	3/13/20	47,100,396	65,680	72,404	78,351	83,592	88,448	93,346
Belgium	3/19/20	11,524,454	58,193	64,056	72,148	86,332	95,683	102,947
Michigan	3/24/20	9,922,576	49,354	53,174	58,654	63,802	-	-
West Bank and Gaza	3/25/20	11,700	56,334	56,334	56,334	-	-	-
Connecticut	3/23/20	3,590,886	45,337	50,844	55,249	61,582	79,661	-
Massachusetts	3/25/20	6,794,422	40,937	46,418	53,742	-	-	-
France	3/18/20	67,076,000	43,855	50,817	53,490	60,078	64,928	68,052
Louisiana	3/20/20	4,670,724	46,004	49,532	53,271	56,870	59,269	62,373
Italy	3/5/20	60,243,406	37,308	41,045	44,939	49,967	54,830	58,966
United Kingdom	3/20/20	66,435,550	35,274	39,650	44,516	49,070	52,726	56,287
Netherlands	3/17/20	17,451,031	33,445	35,390	39,809	42,585	45,380	47,589
District of Columbia	3/24/20	672,228	24,512	25,493	32,846	35,298	-	-
Ireland	3/25/20	4,921,500	24,441	27,187	29,731	-	-	-
Switzerland	3/16/20	8,586,550	25,561	27,442	29,361	31,510	34,351	36,385
Sweden	3/23/20	10,333,456	28,288	28,671	29,309	32,945	38,366	-
United States	3/25/20	329,556,365	23,529	25,832	28,326	-	-	-
Luxembourg	3/17/20	613,894	19,326	22,010	23,620	24,694	27,915	28,989
Macedonia	3/24/20	679,600	16,488	18,427	21,337	21,822	-	-
Colorado	3/24/20	5,456,574	17,515	18,602	19,870	19,810	-	-
Portugal	3/23/20	10,276,617	15,072	16,163	17,157	18,183	19,209	-
Georgia	3/23/20	10,214,860	13,937	14,131	15,454	16,680	17,809	-
Denmark	3/22/20	5,822,763	13,980	14,715	15,451	16,130	16,923	17,489
Germany	3/25/20	83,149,300	12,659	13,056	15,077	-	-	-
Nevada	3/24/20	2,890,845	12,882	12,996	14,820	14,934	-	-
Austria	3/23/20	8,902,600	12,475	12,956	13,623	14,215	14,548	-
Vermont	3/18/20	626,042	12,107	12,107	12,107	12,107	12,634	13,160
Iran	3/9/20	83,331,064	9,954	10,441	10,903	11,461	12,007	12,497
Washington	3/8/20	7,170,351	8,135	8,779	9,514	10,157	10,387	11,444
Iceland	3/23/20	364,260	7,238	7,238	7,238	7,238	7,238	-
Cyprus	3/23/20	875,900	3,762	4,139	4,515	4,515	4,515	-

[exDemMom]

Covid-19 is a killer cold, and shows some of the same symptoms and pattern of transmission. It’s too early to tell yet, but it may very well show the same seasonality as its more benign cousins.

[Lion Den Dan]

I despise these stupid writers with their 8 times lower statements. Lower than what? It is a statement with no definitive measure.

[jimnm]

Of course they have a lower official coronavirus death tally since they’re barely testing since they’re a poorer off country. The tests they are doing take two weeks to come back since they’re labs can’t cope.

Putting it in context, though, Brazil tests just under 300 people for every million inhabitants. In the US, it’s 9,482 per million. So, we test people and get a high death rate. Brazil doesn’t test and people hold it up as some sort of example. It’s similar to China with their completely fake coronavirus statistics which everyone knows understated it by many times.

[SmokingJoe]

Eight times as many deaths lower as New York. Even with 10 times the population of New York and densely packed cities like Rio and Sao Paulo. And little to no lockdowns,
Seems clear enough to me. Read the article.
Don't knock the messenger because you don't like the message.
Go suck on a lemon already.

[Colt1851Navy]

That means that New York sucks more than Brazil. My how we have fallen!

[SmokingJoe]

Of course they have a lower official coronavirus death tally since they’re barely testing since they’re a poorer off country.

Stop talking nonsense.
Brazil is the 9th biggest economy on the planet, with a GDP of nearly $2 Trillion, bigger than Canada's economy.They are a pretty advanced country. If they can make great commercial planes like Embraer, they can test people for coronavirus.
What is complex about coronavirus testing?
Any nurse can do it. Even non nurses can do it with proper instruction.

[SmokingJoe]

New York City is not as cute or as advanced as they think they are.

[SmokingJoe]

Putting it in context, though, Brazil tests just under 300 people for every million inhabitants. In the US, it’s 9,482 per million.

That makes about as much sense as one of Dementia Joe's crazy ramblings.
Why on earth would anyone go test for anything if they are not showing any symptoms or feeling sick at all?
Do you for example test for AIDS every 6 months even though you have absolutely no signs of AIDS?
If not, why not?

[Lion Den Dan]

NY has 8 times more deaths than Brazil. Brazil is not 8 times less than NY. Joe, you spent your time in English class smoking something besides the lesson.

[SmokingJoe]

I am going to back my math over yours anytime any day thank you very much.
New York has 8 times as many coronavirus deaths as the whole of the huge country of Brazil with a massive population of 202 million humans and huge densely packed cities like Sao Paulo and Rio.
The population of New York? An underwhelming 20 million.
Meanwhile, Brazil has managed to keep these stunningly low cironavirus deaths with little to no quarantines at all, even as their economy hums along very nicely.
All the quarantines did in New York was to vastly increase the number of infections and deaths from coronavirus.
Now would you be a good little boy and slink off?

[Lion Den Dan]

Joe, you are an arrogant boor but I won’t argue with you lest folks misidentify the idiot.