Posted on 04/16/2020 4:39:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
We are a few days away from a rendezvous with some tough conclusions about COVID-19.
A number of concurrent developments are coming to a head. Most will bring light where so far there was only heat.
Greater information about the virus might cause as much acrimony as conciliation. Some experts will be discredited, others reaffirmed.
Antibody testing is expected to get under way shortly. Soon, several representative studies will give the country an accurate idea of how many Americans have been infected in the past few months.
With a more trustworthy denominator to compare against known deaths, we will finally learn just how lethal the virus is and whether comparisons to a severe annual flu are legitimate or still inapplicable.
Likewise, there will be greater precision in distinguishing those whose deaths were exclusively virus-related from those who were afflicted by serious chronic illnesses along with the virus. That will also help provide better data about the actual toxicity of the virus.
Those with antibodies will likely be able to return to work with little risk. Arguments will arise over whether their status should be cataloged and banked, or whether such classification would institutionalize creepy two-tier categories of citizenship.
The prior pessimism of most epidemic models will either be confirmed or refuted, depending on the percentages of Americans who have already weathered the virus.
Some people will die but the strong ones have better odds.
Long-term or even lifetime effects are probable for many who recover from serious cases of Covid-19. For one example, 14-30% of recovered Covid-19 ICU patients have lost kidney function and now require dialysis. Also permanent lung damage etc.
This is not “just the flu.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vtX0s-nHKo
Isn’t that how it’s always been since, oh I dunno, THE BEGINNING OF TIME?
“And once all the weak are culled, then society will be better for it because only the strong will rule.”
That is the philosophy which created 20th century’s world wars and caused the death of untold millions and the imprisonments and slavery of even more.
Question: Now that we have a century of data in which to evaluate this philosophy, is the world “stronger?”
NOT
It can be solved today if the deep state treasonists will release the vaccine they were given by the Chinese. Obama, Hillary, Pelosi, Nadler, Schumer, Brennan, Comey, Schiff, none of them have it, how curious.
I predict Food and food distribution business will be re-opened on a priority basis
There are millions of Essentials already working that have never been tested.
54 minutes to talk about data and never really gets to a point I just don’t have the patience nor do I have an hour to donate if somebody would just put the conclusions in like five bullets that would be nicer. No I’m not lazy I run my own business and I work about 20 hours a day so shut up
I’m really over this thing. Of course, I can be. I live in a rural area of Kentucky and, frankly, the death rate in my state is only 0.002%.
The only thing I’ve learned from this virus is this:
1. Stay out of New York and New Jersey (but I already knew that).
2. People that get a steady diet of CNN and MSNBC, et-al are quite gullible, and are living lives of constant fear and, oddly, hubris when discussing this sort of stuff.
I’m very much enjoying this within the confines of where I live. I mean, the overall death rate is actually LOWER, and more of those that are dying are old - and dying is what happens to you when you get older.
So I’m celebrating the reduction of deaths worldwide. We are living in great times. Of course, if any states drag this lockdown past April, there will be hell to pay, but I’m taking each day as it comes. Today and every day so far this year has been a great day!
“So shut up.”
Get out of bed on the wrong side? Anyway, Who asked you?
the intubation might be actually causing what you are describing and might even be what’s killing so many.
Same here. I just hope that they open both entrances at the Fort Campbell Commissary soon again so my son can get in and help me with shopping for groceries and other stuff I need.
Right now he can’t get in because he doesn’t have no ID other than his Drivers License. I am handy-capped and have trouble walking due to a degenerative disk disease, and degenerative hip joint that I have. I have stopped using those carts that they have for have for disabled persons, as they are a pain in the neck. I use instead those small carts that I can push very slow, though and get what I want.
It’s a chinese virus. I compared the highest sick counties in PA and they correlate with high chinese populations.
county sick dead Rank pop percent pop county pop of county
Philadelphia 7347 132 1 2.20% Centre, PA / 153,990
Montgomery 2475 82 2 2.00% Philadelphia, PA / 1,526,006
Lehigh 1922 25 3 1.20% Montgomery, PA / 799,874
Delaware 1882 59 4 1.00% Delaware, PA / 558,979
Luzerne 1567 27 5 1.00% Chester, PA / 498,886
I was out of line and immature and impatient. For that I am sorry. That said can you give me a tiny summary of the video as I don’t have time I had to choose between that one and the 54 minute one that the epoch times put together which was incredible.
We are truly truly at War and I believe this is why President Trump has switched from orange hair to gray hair and serious mode. Again I am sorry.
I need to purchase Martenson's book (and more of yours).
But he does have dated information in his presentation. At 44:05 of the video he notes:
"Persists on some surfaces for us to 9 days"
I’m not sure what study he is referring to but 9 days is mentioned here:
“Persistence of coronaviruses on inanimate surfaces and their inactivation with biocidal agents” but this study did not use SARS-CoV-2
- see https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30046-3/fulltext
More recent studies that use SARS-CoV-2 in their research do not support the virus persisting 9 days:
“Aerosol and surface stability of HCoV-19 (SARS-CoV-2) compared to SARS-CoV-1”
- see https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v2
and
- see https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMc2004973
also
“Stability of SARS-CoV-2 in different environmental conditions”
-see https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666524720300033?via%3Dihub
He should update his information in regards to this specific point. A mention that the persistence of SARS-CoV-2 in this research was also in highly controlled conditions.
You and your graphs are a fraud and have been proven so yet here you are still trying to gin up more fear. Go away people have seen through your act
They are not “my graphs,” they are the Financial Times graphs using officially recorded govt data. Naturally, nobody believes the ChiComs or Iranians, as the graphologist makes clear, but as he also makes clear, it’s not his job to insert himself as a filter or make estimated adjustments. But he has repeatedly said the Chinese and Iranian numbers are doubtful at best.
These graphs are just DATA, mom, DATA, get it?
Not projections, models, theories. Just officially recorded and submitted DATA.
Do you get the difference between DATA and MODELS?
Thanks, Matt.
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Do you get garbage in garbage out? Your exponential rants fell on their face. DATA is showing countries and states that did not lock down have the same curve as those that did. You are a reprehensible fear monger without the shame to admit you were wrong. Peddle you’re garbage somewhere else and take your petty insults and threats with you.
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