on FR this kind of talk is blasphemy
Bennett is usually smarter than that. The low death number is because of what we’ve done. Also, flu has a season; this doesn’t. We have to deal with this until we come up with a cure, reach herd immunity, or get an effective vaccine.
“And all of this assumes that the official death toll from COVID-19 accurately captures everyone who’s died from it. We know that it doesn’t. There are many, many more people who’ve dropped dead in their homes in New York City over the last month than there usually are in the months of March and April, and few of them get counted as coronavirus deaths because they haven’t been formally tested before or after death.”
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mmmm. So, all the stories about counting people who have other illnesses in addition to Covid-19, but just happen to have Covid-19 when they die are being counted as dying due to Covid-19, are lies? (Dying while having Covid-19 = dying because of Covid-19...ie Dying while having Covid-19 means Covid-19 was the cause of death)
Please get me straight on this one.
We are grasping for arguments that it’s not the end of the world according to hot air. They haven’t been good for a long time I don’t know what happened.
They’re not awful but not what they were some years back.
The Bookie of Virtue. Wonder where he’s been hiding lately?
"THIS" = New York City's outsized deaths ONLY.
Well DUH! What do you expect when -- on April 2nd at rush hour New Yorkers were still doing THIS...
They aren't doing that in the rest of America, and the deaths are not any higher than typical flu years.
To which people will reply, “See, that’s how good our lock downs and quarantines have been working.”
I’ve already heard that one several times in person.
Some of us think it’s complete gobshite, actually.
bump
It was never about the number of deaths, but about overwhelming the healthcare system when tens of thousands are sick and dying at the same time. Why don’t the Flubros get this simple fact?????????
Nice snag SAF
THANK U
I figure that Trump was advised by scientists who believed the virus had been manufactured as a weapon and were not sure as to what exactly it was programmed to do.
“We know that it doesn’t. There are many, many more people who’ve dropped dead in their homes in New York City over the last month than there usually are in the months of March and April, and few of them get counted as coronavirus deaths because they haven’t been formally tested...”
This passage refers to a shocking story that appeared in the New York Times. Did anyone else’s fake-news-O-meter peg out while reading that story or a discussion of it? It was a bit too perfect and horrifying, possibly designed to shame skeptics into silence. Or by any chance has it been independently verified and the fake-news-O-meter in question needs to be sent into the shop for calibration?
That’s all assuming that the lockdowns actually did anything. Sweden is suggesting that they haven’t really done that much to change the numbers. Possibly because they came too late and the virus spread so rapidly, that much of the spread had already been done. Also possibly because there are many exceptions and violations of the lockdowns.
Heck, look at how many nursing homes were affected by this. Those should have been the easiest things in the world to lockdown. So if lockdowns were working, nursing homes should not have been hit.
Regardless, there is still next to zero evidence to suggest our case numbers would be much higher if lockdowns never happened. Sweden, we’re looking in your direction. No significant lockdown and case numbers not much different from their neighbors. So this article’s premise is faulty to begin with. The preventive measures against the virus are unproven and have been so inconsistently implemented, there is little to suggest this virus would be much more deadlier than it is without these measures in place. And the numbers as they are are not that much more deadly than a bad flu season. Certainly not enough to suggest we need a drastically different policy in place than we do for the flu.
...and the”Go ahead and prove a negative” crowd chimes in by post #3.
After all his great conservatism and his works and his contributions to American life, he turns out to be a damned “flu bro.”