Documents show: They are prioritized away from intensive care-(Sweedes taking care of 60-80's yr old old fashion way No soup, ah no ICU for Ya)

For those with a biological age over 80, intensive care is not required, according to the document. The same applies to people over 70 who have significant failure in more than one organ system. Persons between 60 and 70 who have failed in more than two organ systems should also be given priority.

For example, organ failure may be about people with heart, lung, and kidney diseases. (Respiration, circulation, renal function, as stated in the document).

The document also states that patients who are already in intensive care should be able to have the intensive care interrupted if they belong to any of the above categories..

"Rubber Section" The document should be seen as a decision support for doctors who are responsible for initiating or interrupting intensive care.

It also appears that this applies to "biological age", ie not the actual (chronological) age of the person. If you are seriously ill, the biological age can be assessed to be higher or lower than the actual age.

Should not is one thing, but it does not reflect reality. Resources are finite; check into most urban hospital emergency rooms and watch what happens on a bad Saturday night.

Unfortunately, age *is* one of the factors going into calculating someone’s likelihood to survive. It isn’t the only one in most cases, but it is actually a factor. To use the example I used before, simply being 79 years old isn’t the only factor in the hypothetical grandma being forced to wait for a ventilator (and possibly dying). She’s a smoker (reduced cardiovascular function and reduced chances of even surviving the ventilator to start) and has heart arrhythmia, two big risk factors alongside her age. The 28 year old competing with her for the ventilator has no pre-existing conditions and is far more likely to survive the ventilator even if you leave age out of it. In this situation, age isn’t the only factor, but it calculates out to the 79 year old having far worse chances of surviving even if she does get the ventilator. The only choice to save the most amount of people with limited resources is to give the ventilator to the 28 year old woman and hope something opens up for the 79 year old and that more patients don’t come in. If the situation was reversed, where the 28 year old had major pre-existing conditions, was asthmatic, smoked several packs a day, was frail, etc., and the 79 year old was in relatively robust shape (yes, that is a thing!) with no serious applicable pre-existing conditions, then the 79 year old should get the ventilator.

Speaking as a motorcyclist who has spent quite a bit more time in ERs, being triaged, and observing triage in process more than he would really like to, it happens every day even *before* the current pandemic. Every single crash I’ve had in the last 25 years, I’ve run through triage at the ER with the triage nurse - yes, this is a position in the modern ER, guess what his or her job is.

Triage should not be a common thing. We should not regularly be short on resources. You should only see triage in a mass tragedy like a war or major accident or disaster. Triage based on who is more likely to survive makes sense. Based solely on a person’s age is just discrimination.

Perfectly stated. Totally agree. There is a qualitative difference between triage built into a healthcare system for the purpose of eliminating costly elderly or disabled people, and triage in the event of disaster or war.

This particular pandemic bears many markers of an act of war, certainly including its concealment by a nation that was "researching" the virus and stockpiling medical supplies while engaging in trade negotiations with us, and then threatening to withhold medical components on a supply chain paid for by us, or even to set loose more infection into our nation.

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