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Steyn Online ^ | 11 Apr 2020 | Kathy Shaidle

Posted on 04/12/2020 10:28:17 AM PDT by Rummyfan

There's too much chatter about movies that are "so bad, they're good." These admittedly amusing musings distract from a truly insidious phenomenon:

Movies "so good, they're bad."

No such creature as "just a movie" exists. We may (believe ourselves to) be capable of separating fact from fiction, but millions of people never will.

Take the "Hitler's Pope" canard. It was popularized by, of all things, a Soviet-orchestrated stage play called The Deputy, back in 1963. How many individuals have heard of this play, let alone seen it performed? A few thousand? Yet the Vatican's supposed collusion with the Nazis is widely considered "common knowledge," despite all the well-researched critiques which have not, in like fashion, been rendered down into easily digestible, entertaining, two-hour public performances.

I remain perturbed by Ben Affleck's reduction of Canada's crucial role in the rescue of American hostages in Argo. Brits object, among other things, to the portrayal of their ancestors as war criminals in The Patriot. James Cameron had to apologize for slandering a Titanic officer. Do not get me started on Thirteen Days...

And it gives me no (okay, a little...) pleasure to inform those of you forced to sit through corporate "team building" exercises based on the "square peg in a round hole" scene in Apollo 13 that, in actuality, one man came up with that lifesaving fix; as in most situations here on planet Earth, a team probably would have taken much longer and just screwed things up.

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To: SoCal Pubbie
No, the CIA didn’t. But if it makes you feel better to think one lone nut can’t shape history, enjoy your comfort.

Paging Gavrilo Princip. Please pick up the white courtesy phone.

Paging John Wilkes Booth. Please pick up the white courtesy phone.

121 posted on 04/12/2020 8:21:55 PM PDT by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net (We are the dangerous ones, who stand between all we love and a more dangerous world.)
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To: stuckincali
"doesn’t matter if the book is full of lies. I never read the book. It matters that she said it"

I think you missed the point. It was her book. She was lying. We know that. It's not the only instance of people making up stories about this case.

"The placement of Oswald and the route which was not known before the trip is a fantastic coincidence."

No it isn't. He wasn't placed, he got a job. Because he was working there he had the opportunity, and he took advantage of it. It wasn't an independent variable. Had he not worked there he likely wouldn't have done it.

"The Roselli visit goes to motive and after the Marcello kidnapping by RFK Giancano was hot."

Many people had motive. That's not enough. Nothing ties them to the crime.

122 posted on 04/12/2020 8:55:08 PM PDT by mlo
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To: nesnah
"I said controlled, not collected. As we’ve come to understand lately, those two things are completely different."

The evidence is the evidence. It was collected by the Dallas Police on Nov. 22nd. Who had control of it later doesn't change what it was on that day.

You can't just make up some insinuation about evidence and then make it mean whatever you want. Any conclusion about the case has to be rooted in evidence. If you can cherry pick and ignore whatever is in your way then you can believe anything. It doesn't work that way.

123 posted on 04/12/2020 8:57:47 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

Yes, those were examples of assassinations born of conspiracy. Too bad there just isn’t any evidence of that in the assassination of JFK.


124 posted on 04/12/2020 9:05:49 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: mlo

The ultimate trump card of conspiracy hounds is that any evidence that cannot be impeached is simply dismissed as the fabrication of the deep state.


125 posted on 04/12/2020 9:07:30 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: mlo

Joe Bonnano said the mafia did it on screen at the end of his showtime movie. The CIOA had used the mafia to try to kill castro. Giancana was pissed at the Kennedys.

Motive is 1/3 of the element of a murder.

I have listed in my previous post unanswered questions and serious motives about which there can be no doubt.

Ask yourself who benefits and why was the “patsy” killed with his front exposed to someone in police garage who had no business being there?

I said the route AND the job were remarkable coincidence. LBJ was from Texas and had friends in Dallas like the group he had dinner with. Maybe he suggested a route? Mr. President, i would be honored to make a few suggestions about your trip to Dallas. We can get it organized although everyone in the city wants a shot at , I mean a look see at you and Mrs. Kennedy.

So his secretary lied about the man she was loyal to for a decades. yeah, ok. You must have seen her polygraph.

It is symptomatic that when people have no sure case they accuse others of lying.

I am getting wiped on this subject have the last word.

Best wishes!


126 posted on 04/12/2020 9:20:50 PM PDT by stuckincali
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To: Richard Kimball

zaklee


127 posted on 04/12/2020 9:21:45 PM PDT by stuckincali
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To: Richard Kimball

BTW I believed you when you said the one armed man did it. Just saying.


128 posted on 04/12/2020 9:22:31 PM PDT by stuckincali
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To: Treeless Branch

The ONLY reason Ruby was there was because one of his stripper called lil Lill called him on Sunday morning at 10 am to ask for a wire transfer fro Western Union to cover her rent. Ruby was at the office, which was right next door to where Oswald was being transferred. He walked down the ramp and killed Oswald within minutes of leaving the Western Union. He had his little dog with him. That to me does not sound like it was planned out. Too many varitables to go wrong. He killed Oswald because he was nuts for one and thought thst Jews would be blamed for the assassination.


129 posted on 04/12/2020 9:49:30 PM PDT by Bommer (I am a MAGA-Deplorian! It is the way! It is the only way!)
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To: entropy12

Oswald was more than just a loner. He was a pathetic angry loner. A man so common he was practically invisible, so failed and desperate to be noticed takes out the most powerful man of the planet, The President Of The United , A youthful, handsome scion of American aristocracy highly decorated combat wounded veteran of the US Navy during WW2 in the Pacific.

With a radiantly beautiful wife, herself a veritable princes
in the same American aristocracy, and two lovely children the thought this nobody in Lee Harvey Oswald could take man like JFK down is so impossible.


130 posted on 04/13/2020 12:13:50 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: Bommer

-—”The ONLY reason Ruby was there was because one of his stripper called lil Lill called him on Sunday morning at 10 am to ask for a wire transfer fro Western Union to cover her rent. Ruby was at the office, which was right next door to where Oswald was being transferred. He walked down the ramp and killed Oswald within minutes of leaving the Western Union. He had his little dog with him. That to me does not sound like it was planned out. Too many varitables to go wrong. He killed Oswald because he was nuts for one and thought thst Jews would be blamed for the assassination.”-—

Well put and correct. It’s also worth mentioning that Ruby was only there in time to impulsively shoot Oswald because the transfer was slightly behind schedule. Why was it? Because Oswald asked the police to get him a new shirt to wear. If Oswald hadn’t done that, the transfer would have happened before Ruby got there. Doesn’t sound like a planned conspuracy to me.


131 posted on 04/13/2020 5:45:40 AM PDT by StoneRainbow68
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To: jmacusa

-—”Oswald was more than just a loner. He was a pathetic angry loner. “-—

Oswald almost perfectly fits the kind of person who would try to murder a famous person.

Oswald was obviously the guy who tried to murder General Walker earlier in the year, before taking his chances trying to kill Kennedy. He was no patsy. He did it.


132 posted on 04/13/2020 5:48:54 AM PDT by StoneRainbow68
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To: Churchillspirit

F them. The Kennedys were and still are a bunch of dirt bags.


133 posted on 04/13/2020 8:50:54 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

Left out ole Charlie Guiteau.


134 posted on 04/13/2020 11:25:42 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: StoneRainbow68

-—”Yes. What makes the most sense is the bullet had been slowed so much by going through two torsos, that it finally came to rest and lodged under the skin of Connolly’s right hand. Which is why it easily worked free and popped out at Parkland, and was found on Connolly’s gurney.”-—

Correcting my own post. The bullet stopped and lodged just under the skin of Connolly’s right thigh, not his right hand.


135 posted on 04/13/2020 2:01:59 PM PDT by StoneRainbow68
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To: SoCal Pubbie

> Propaganda works. Even with people on this website, who can’t accept the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

For years some people have insisted on declaring LHO guilty.

LHO is probably the most guilty guy in the USA who never got a trial. Even more curiously, LHO was killed on live national TV while in police custody.

Innocent until proven guilty? Bah. Just a BS legal tenet for people who can’t accept facts.

In any case, yes. Propaganda indeed works!


136 posted on 04/13/2020 2:13:00 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: SteveH

Yes, he was guilty. No, he didn’t get a trial. So no conviction. That seems pretty basic.


137 posted on 04/13/2020 2:34:50 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SteveH

On the other hand, OJ was found not guilty but he killed two people.


138 posted on 04/13/2020 2:37:55 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

> Yes, he was guilty. No, he didn’t get a trial. So no conviction.

oh

are you in competition for the logical contradiction statement of the millenium award?

:)


139 posted on 04/13/2020 2:46:58 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: SteveH

Really, you’re going to go there? You’re really going to be that silly? We are not talking about a legal court of law here, are we? As I posted about OJ Simpson as an example, not every use of the term “guilty” implies a legal verdict rendered in a court of law.

You don’t want to consider him guilty that’s fine by me. He was still the lone assassin and killed president Kennedy.


140 posted on 04/13/2020 2:51:12 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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