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11.April U.S. Surpasses Italy in Total Number of Confirmed Deaths
New York Times ^ | 11 April 2020 | Misc

Posted on 04/11/2020 1:04:11 PM PDT by Cronos

The United States on Saturday surpassed Italy in the total number of confirmed deaths from the coronavirus, reaching its deadliest day on Friday with 2,057 deaths. As of Saturday afternoon, the total stood at 20,229.

Already the pandemic has put more than 16 million out of work, forcing President Trump into the difficult choice of reopening the country as the country reels economically from the coronavirus pandemic.

Deaths in the United States per capita remained lower than in Italy, though some experts have warned that geography and population density have helped cushion the United States so far. To date, the virus has killed 19,468 in Italy, or 32 individuals per 100,000 people. In the United States, the number of deaths per 100,000 people was six.

The country’s death toll, which has more than doubled over the past week, is now increasing by nearly 2,000 most days

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1moretime; coronavirus; covid; covid19; epidemic
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Ominous milestone
1 posted on 04/11/2020 1:04:12 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

The US has about 5X as many people as Italy. Figures lie, liars figure.


2 posted on 04/11/2020 1:06:17 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Cronos

What is the logic behind your comment?


3 posted on 04/11/2020 1:07:49 PM PDT by TheConservativeBanker
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To: Cronos

“Ominous milestone”

Ummm OK.


4 posted on 04/11/2020 1:08:49 PM PDT by DAC21 ( and Naflet had demint)
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To: pfflier

About 49% of the cases and deaths are in NYC. We in LA County have ~ 200 deaths. NYC - 18M population, 60K PER square miles, 3544 deaths (4/6); LACounty - 10M population, 2K PER square mile, 169 deaths (4/6).

Let’s call NYC the epicenter and leave the rest of us alone.


5 posted on 04/11/2020 1:09:50 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Cronos

Why, that’s only the same as the average amount of flu deaths a year. Oh wait, that wasn’t supposed to happen. Hmmm...and it’s not over yet.


6 posted on 04/11/2020 1:10:02 PM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: Cronos

They have a population of around 60.36 million.

We have a population of around 328 million.

Apples and oranges.

Europe has a population of around 446 million and 70,459 deaths.


7 posted on 04/11/2020 1:10:10 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: TheConservativeBanker

“What is the logic behind your comment?”

Right, the preferred media term is “Grim Milestone”.


8 posted on 04/11/2020 1:10:30 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Epstein pulled a Carradine, the bozo.)
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To: Cronos
Deaths in the United States per capita remained lower than in Italy, though some experts have warned that geography and population density have helped cushion the United States so far.

more like just a delay rather than a cushion.
9 posted on 04/11/2020 1:10:52 PM PDT by stylin19a (2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: pfflier
"The US has about 5X as many people as Italy. Figures lie, liars figure."

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10 posted on 04/11/2020 1:12:09 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: pfflier

“The US has about 5X as many people as Italy. Figures lie, liars figure.”

Italy = 116,347 square miles.
USA = 3,797,000 square milers.

And you’re absolutely right about the population difference. Also, most of the cases in Italy occurred in regions with international (i.e. China) travel. The US has more major international transportation hubs than Italy.


11 posted on 04/11/2020 1:12:20 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: Cronos

NYT buries the lede in the third paragraph. U.S. : 3 deaths per 100K population; Italy: 32 deaths per 100K population. Order of magnitude difference.

Printing all the lies that can fit in their shrinking paper.


12 posted on 04/11/2020 1:13:48 PM PDT by centurion316 (.)
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To: Cronos
Democrats everywhere cheer.


13 posted on 04/11/2020 1:14:48 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: Cronos

The NYT and the Left. Always looking for opportunities to demoralize and bring down.

What COMPARATIVE PERCENTAGE PER CAPITA have died from

1) the Chinese virus
2) seasonal flu
3) car accidents


14 posted on 04/11/2020 1:15:33 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: pfflier
Exactly. It is somewhat simplistic to look at the raw numbers, without the other related data. (Except if you're a journalist who has had trouble with simple Math and logical thinking).

The U.S. has a much larger population, a greater geographical area to manage. Moreover, the U.S. has developed the best testing tools, and is conducting the most testing. So deaths attributed to the virus will be much higher.

Moreover, from recent reports it looks like certain states lead by democrats are padding numbers to give higher number of cases.

15 posted on 04/11/2020 1:16:07 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: SaxxonWoods

I didn’t catch the sarcasm. Must be one of my Asperger’s syndrome episodes.


16 posted on 04/11/2020 1:16:29 PM PDT by TheConservativeBanker
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To: pfflier

“The US has about 5X as many people as Italy. Figures lie, liars figure.”

The article gives #/100k.


17 posted on 04/11/2020 1:16:34 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: pfflier

Shhhhhhhhhhhh! You’ll ruin the narrative.


18 posted on 04/11/2020 1:16:46 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Parmy

What’s next” “The Backstabbers” O’Jays?


19 posted on 04/11/2020 1:18:06 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: pfflier

Yes, we have almost 5x Italy’s population. What is the point of this report?


20 posted on 04/11/2020 1:19:50 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( Stop the fearmongering! Post flu statistics along side COVID-19 statistics!)
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