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(CNN) US coronavirus death count likely an underestimate. Here’s why.
CNN via click2houston KPRC ^ | April 6, 2020, 7:31 pm | no byline -The-CNN-Wire

Posted on 04/10/2020 12:04:55 AM PDT by a fool in paradise

Health experts are warning the national count of Covid-19 deaths in the United States could be underestimated as the coronavirus pandemic continues to spread.

This could be especially true because the reporting data can lag by an average of one to two weeks, according to the latest guidance from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's.

Also, deaths due to Covid-19 "may be misclassified as pneumonia deaths in the absence of positive test results, and pneumonia may appear on death certificates as a comorbid condition," the CDC noted, adding that "analyses to better understand and quantify reporting delays" for Covid-19 deaths and "related causes" are underway. In March, the CDC introduced a new code to accurately capture mortality due to Covid-19 on death certificates.

With that code, the CDC noted that Covid-19 "should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death."

‘What we are seeing is a tip of an iceberg’

When it comes to an accurate count of Covid-19 deaths in the US, "we really are just seeing the tip of the iceberg and a lot of it has to do with the tests we have available," Dr. Panagis Galiatsatos, a pulmonary and critical care physician on the front lines at Johns Hopkins Medicine in Baltimore, said Monday morning...

‘There will be a lot of death’...

(Excerpt) Read more at click2houston.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cnnbias; cookedthebooks; coronavirus; fakenews; fearmonger; fraud; libsplaining; orwelliannightmare; panicspreader; pravdamedia
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To: a fool in paradise
(pneumonia) may be misclassified as Corona deaths in the absence of positive test results.... And probably has been many times over throughout the world... Accounting for thousands within the Covid-19 death totals.

There... Fixed it.

BTW - The 3% death totals mentioned with regards to the Spanish flu refers to 3% of the worlds population at that time... Roughly 50 to 60 million deaths in 1919.... Today's equivalent number would be 228,000,000 million deaths.

Hysterical people need to get a grip and put this 'pandemic' into perspective... This is nothing more than a 'worse than' normal flu season and several of these deaths being recorded as covid-19 are likely normal flu deaths.

If they subtracted the non-covid deaths from the covid-19 death totals... The numbers are much less than advertised. They need to keep the numbers up to justify the destruction of economy... But they'll need to count more creatively if they want to get to 228 million.

21 posted on 04/10/2020 1:34:58 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: norcal joe

“Yeah, and they were still counted as covid-19 deaths.”

An estimated additional 180 - 195 deaths per day occurring at home in New York City due to COVID-19 are not being counted in the official figures. “Early on in this crisis we were able to swab people who died at home, and thus got a coronavirus reading. But those days are long gone. We simply don’t have the testing capacity for the large numbers dying at home. Now only those few who had a test confirmation *before* dying are marked as victims of coronavirus on their death certificate. This almost certainly means we are undercounting the total number of victims of this pandemic,” said Mark Levine, Chair of New York City Council health committee


22 posted on 04/10/2020 1:41:50 AM PDT by nbenyo
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To: a fool in paradise

Kirk... "Was it Covid-19?"

Bones... "If you want it to be Jim... I can call it anything you like, I'm the doctor."

23 posted on 04/10/2020 1:57:35 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: a fool in paradise

The counts not only appear to be overinflated, it appears they are intentionally so.


24 posted on 04/10/2020 2:09:08 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Joe Biden/Zombie Reagan in 2020 - Braaaaaains!)
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To: thoughtomator

yep


25 posted on 04/10/2020 2:13:27 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Everyone knows Hillary was corrupt, lied, destroyed documents, and influenced witnesses. Rat crime.)
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To: Peter ODonnell

Good Post...funny!


26 posted on 04/10/2020 2:23:35 AM PDT by mythenjoseph
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CNN is ATT

ATT despises you!


27 posted on 04/10/2020 2:52:15 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Damn it! We are NOT seeing enough death! If we can’t scare people sufficiently, the economy is going to come back, and Drumpf is going to be re-elected! You! Write something about how the death tally is too low!” — imagined conversation at CNN


28 posted on 04/10/2020 2:57:54 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitz)
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To: a fool in paradise

Quick,quick. We need another lie to spread to the sheople to feed them in their shit sandwich.


29 posted on 04/10/2020 3:12:54 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: a fool in paradise

Gotta keep the BS smelling for as long as possible...


30 posted on 04/10/2020 3:40:17 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Maris Crane

CNN is the operating system for the new Telescreen models.


31 posted on 04/10/2020 3:44:07 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (This tagline is an advertisement-free zone.)
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To: a fool in paradise
More likely,

How Honest Is Our Covid Fatality Count? Take Minnesota As a Disturbing Example 4/8/2020, 8:58:22 PM · by SeekAndFind · 30 replies Powerline Blog ^ | 04/08/2020 | John Hinderaker Dr. Scott Jensen is both a physician and a Minnesota state senator. Yesterday he was interviewed by a local television station and dropped a bombshell: he, and presumably all other Minnesota doctors, got a seven-page letter from the Minnesota Department of Health that gave guidance on how to classify COVID-19 deaths. The letter said that if a patient died of, e.g., pneumonia, and was believed to have been exposed to COVID-19, the death certificate should say that COVID-19 was the cause of death even though the patient was never tested, or never tested positive, for that disease.

The federal government is classifying the deaths of patients infected with the coronavirus as COVID-19 deaths, regardless of any underlying health issues that could have contributed to the loss of someone’s life.

Dr. Deborah Birx, the response coordinator for the White House coronavirus task force, said the federal government is continuing to count the suspected COVID-19 deaths, despite other nations doing the opposite.

“There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition, and let’s say the virus caused you to go to the ICU [intensive care unit] and then have a heart or kidney problem,” she said during a Tuesday news briefing at the White House. “Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death.

“The intent is … if someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that,” she added. - https://thehayride.com/2020/04/confirmed-theyre-inflating-wuhan-virus-death-rates-nationally/

the CDC allows some leeway in assigning the cause of death: “COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death [emp. by CDC].” “the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID-19 being the underlying cause more often than not.” (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf)

Dr. Anthony Fauci... admitted that seven out of eight deaths attributed to the virus were really caused by one or more other comorbidities. In other words, the patient was on death’s door whether the virus got to them or not.

Dr. Deborah Birx, who everybody seems to like because she dresses so well, admitted those death totals are inflated as a matter of policy.

The same issue is related to the number of deaths in Italy which is attributed to Covid-19. According to Prof Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health:

“On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity - many had two or three,” he says. (Why have so many coronavirus patients died in Italy (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/)

32 posted on 04/10/2020 4:10:40 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: a fool in paradise

OMG, another reason it is worse than we imagined! We are all going to die!


33 posted on 04/10/2020 4:13:35 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( Stop the fearmongering! Post flu statistics along side COVID-19 statistics!)
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To: Peter ODonnell
In a new and startling development, experts tell CNN that the pandemic is the result of Russian-Ukrainian meddling perpetrated by white nationalist hate groups, and made far worse by climate change, as well as a lack of respect for science.


I did read one story that white nationalists are trying to weaponize the corona virus. I am not kidding.
34 posted on 04/10/2020 4:15:14 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( Stop the fearmongering! Post flu statistics along side COVID-19 statistics!)
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To: a fool in paradise
Or, CNN, it's over-reporting with hospitals calling patients a Covid-19 death without testing.


35 posted on 04/10/2020 4:17:20 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Die-ggl,TWT,FCBK,NYT,WPo,Hwd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antf,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA,ARP,MSNBC)
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To: a fool in paradise
This is from 2010. I found it interesting...

Swine flu has killed up to 17,000 in U.S.: report

...The CDC and the World Health Organization stopped trying to count all the actual cases months ago, once it became clear that H1N1 was a pandemic that would infect millions.

Is the WuFlu being counted differently than Swine Flu? If so why?

36 posted on 04/10/2020 4:32:24 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: a fool in paradise

I guess the real numbers aren’t bad enough. People are ready for the country to be reopened for business so let’s scare them some more. Keep the sheeple in line. It’s been working beyond our wildest dreams so far. Of course there are a number of Freepers who will celebrate this news because to them the more death the better.


37 posted on 04/10/2020 4:39:57 AM PDT by redangus
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To: a fool in paradise

“In other news, Jeff Epstein’s death has been reclassified as a Wuhan virus casualty.”


38 posted on 04/10/2020 4:44:43 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: nbenyo

So the numbers should balance each other out and be somewhere in the middle.


39 posted on 04/10/2020 4:55:45 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: JoSixChip

What should scare you is what’s next, WWIII?

Indeed, once this all passes and the inevitable investigations/impeachment are about to wrap up with less than desirable results for the left.....WWIII


40 posted on 04/10/2020 4:59:01 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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