Antibiotic buried way down in report even though French study says it is definitely necessary.
No zinc or vitamin C
I wonder if the scattered reports we get about HCQ not being effective are because they are not adding the antibiotic?
Surely doctors are not that obtuse?
Interesting tidbit. I know an ER doc at the same hospital as the Doc who said current ventilator protocols are wrong because Covid isnt attacking the lungs, it’s attacking the blood’s ability to carry 02. That may be why HCQ is effective. Anyway the doc I know had Covid about a month ago. She was home in Q when she had a crisis. Very short of breath. The ER sent a doc to get her. They gave her high volume O2 AND HCQ&ZPACK. She was home on day six. This was IIRC even before Trump’s briefing statement. It’s not the flu. It may not be totally respiratory. And that’s why HCQ et al work
We are adding the antibiotic and the results are still not that impressive. Right now it’s all we have but it is not the ultimate answer
> “I wonder if the scattered reports we get about HCQ not being effective are because they are not adding the antibiotic?”
You raise the crucial issue.
If Yale sees mixed results as a result of not including Zinc, then the Vaccine Lobby may get a temporary win.
Dr. Didier Raoult in France had tremendous success without Zinc because the French diet is rich in Zinc.
The American diet is Zinc-poor.
Dr. ‘Zev’ Zelenko has had results so positive using HCQ + Zinc that it can be called a cure, curing many, many hundreds of positive cases, full range of ages, both genders, all ranges of severity, and now people calling him from all over.he and his clinic are overwhelmed.
Yale is full of rich entitled ruling class kids. Their faculty should be quite competent and look at Zinc combination + Z-Pak/Doxyclycin.
Let’s hope the Med faculty get it right. I am inclined to think they will because the setting and natural impulse to cure will steer them.
Dr. Raoult included Z-Pak (Azithromycin) to guard against infection and because it has mild anti-viral effects as well as antibiotic.
But in Marseille, the diet is Zinc-rich so his outcomes were good.
Dr. Zev included Z-Pak because Dr. Raoult did but doesn’t think it is necessary. He includes it to ensure his regimen leaves no gap just in case because of Dr. Raoult’s success outcome. Zev didn’t know the French diet was so rich in Zinc. It was Zev’s puzzle solving ability that led him to include Zinc consciously. He has a very brilliant mind.
So Zinc is key. It’s what makes the virus stop growing. The HCQ helps push the Zinc into the cell (increase the uptake). The two working together make a cure as nearly all recover.
However, in severe cases of Covid-19, the lungs are going to be damaged. So although Zev’s regimen can stop such patients from dying, they are not going to be 100% back in shape right away and will need a lot of therapy and healing. But at least they will be alive.
Because severe cases can cause lungs to be damaged, Zev urges people get treatment early, early, early and aggressively.
The test kits and other tests now coming are important. Everyone needs to be tested and not just once but periodically until it’s over whenever that is.
But anyone with a positive test result needs to get to a doctor’s office ASAP and tell the doctor they need HCQ + Zinc treatment ASAP. If the doctor says sorry I’m not allowed, tell the doc you have a witness to his/her refusal and the next meeting is going to be with an attorney. If the doctor persists in refusing because blah blah blah, “the State doesn’t allow me unless you need to be hospitalized” yada yada yada, you tell the doctor “see you in court” and then proceed to repeat the demands to the State public health bureaucracy.
A word of advice, when demanding an urgent response from a government bureaucrat, they will often appear sympathetic, passionate, blather all sorts of things that they and others in government aer doing to ‘address’ the situation etc. They will literally appear to be jumping up and down to ‘help’. But they won’t release the pills. They’re useless.
Tell them “Enough of the bullsh*t, I want the pills now! I want my doctor to prescribe the pills because this is my life that’s on the line and I’ll be damned if you’re going to get in the way of my life being saved!”
That said, the pill regimen should be under the care of a doc. These are not OTC meds, they can have side effects if not properly dosed or taken. A doctor needs to be involved, but the bureaucracy can take a hike.
This virus appears to be a dual killer. It attacks the hemoglobin, reducing delivered O2 and it replicates in depp lung cells destroying cells in the lungs resulting in what appears to present as ARDS.
The HCQ works in more ways than one to mitigate these effects. It has been shown to change the interstitial pH, stressing the virus where it seeks to spread in the blood; it reduces inflammation throughout the body and especially the airways; it acts as a zinc ionophore to transport zinc inside the infected cells where the zinc blocks virus replication; it may also degrade the protein casing of the viral packet.
The antibiotic is for secondary pneumonia