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Covid-19 had us all fooled, but now we might have finally found its secret.
Liberty ^ | 5 April 20 | maven stock

Posted on 04/09/2020 8:06:53 PM PDT by hapnHal

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To: gas_dr

You cannot even admit you were wrong years later.

You were given every opportunity to be reasonable at the time but insisted on things were happening, had happened that weren’t and didn’t.


61 posted on 04/10/2020 9:15:26 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: gas_dr

You kept calling her a corpse.

Said her brain was liquefying and her body was decomposing.

You were strident in your dishonesty.


62 posted on 04/10/2020 9:32:15 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: hapnHal

There certainly seems to be gathering evidence the initial response to this has been wrong. I’m not casting blame, this thing is new, but it is another example of how important it is to think outside the box, trust what you see and keep an open mind to data-points which don’t fit the narrative.

Unfortunately, we live in a narrative driven world, where actual facts are hard to find. One narrative relies on the reporting of another narrative and words become facts, without any substance.

Folks who die from this thing must die a horrible death. Very tragic and they must die alone. Yet the statistics show folks die from tragic things routinely, suicide, drug overdoses, car accidents and we as a society do little....at least comparatively to actually fight these things.


63 posted on 04/10/2020 9:52:51 AM PDT by SteelPSUGOP
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To: hapnHal

Needs medical/research/lab/expert sources.


64 posted on 04/10/2020 11:04:10 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: gas_dr

Hey Gas:

I appreciate you posting this.

Sorry that my fellow FREEPERS are such jerks but if you have been around a while, I suspect you were expecting that.


65 posted on 04/10/2020 5:03:17 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: jj Ketemi

Really....Considering most viral pneumonias are bilateral, I am really glad to hear that you have some sort of wired understanding of this. Considering ARDS is always bilateral, I am at a loss for words.


66 posted on 04/10/2020 6:55:56 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: ifinnegan

She was declared brain dead. I pointed out the ramifications of that. Anything beyond it was not lies, nor strident. I am sorry you do not agree with the law and I am sorry you feel the need to attack personally. Sometimes reality is quite harsh.


67 posted on 04/10/2020 6:57:23 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: SteelPSUGOP

here are the facts:
I have treated now more than 20 ventilated patients without a single death. I have treated them according to ARDS (severe) standard. There is nothing new here. I am speaking from direct clinical experience at bedside. The worst thing in the world is when people jump on bandwagons and speak with authority that is neither authentic nor earned. I will take my clinical results against any theory that is not standard treatment.


68 posted on 04/10/2020 6:59:24 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Been around for over 17 years — I have never met the dark side of some Freepers, but it is there. I am disappointed. I had conversation with another Freeper tonight and she will be taking a hiatus because this extremely bright and caring physician who puts her life on the line everyday and is raising the next generation of physicians in her family has been ruthlessly attacked and aggrieved but the usual gang of thug (Danny TN, Hostage, and numerous others). I personally have been threatened with: legal action, doxing, and wished that I would contact Corona and die based on my scientific observations and expert medical opinions (I am a triply boarded physician with special qualifications and board certification in critical care medicine).

It is almost like the Salem witch trials — those who do not want to hear the science are willing to sacrifice those who come with science and fact. It is what it is. But this has revealed the soul of many people who post on this board. I am saddened by it.

Thank you for your kind words.


69 posted on 04/10/2020 7:29:57 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

Stop lying.

You said her body was decomposing at the time.

You called her a corpse.

It took five years for her liver to finally stop functioning.

You made stuff up out of whole cloth.

I quote: “Decomposing> Her brain is starting to liquefy. She is in fact decomposing”

You are lying now by refusing to acknowledge you exaggerated without knowledge.

It a long time to decompose.


70 posted on 04/10/2020 7:31:23 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

Ill stop telling the truth about you if you stop lying about me.


71 posted on 04/10/2020 7:33:37 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

Remember that the college kids are in the basement at Mom’s house messing around with people on the internet.


72 posted on 04/10/2020 7:35:20 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: gas_dr

Address what I said.

You were wrong, but did not present your opinion as an opinion but as fact.

“Decomposing> Her brain is starting to liquefy. She is in fact decomposing”

Five years of decomposing.


73 posted on 04/10/2020 7:41:06 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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Since you pompously tell the story here is the rest of the story:

This patient was released from the hospital declared brain dead. She died 4 years later related to hepatic failure and with a diagnosis of anoxic brain injury. The family was not forthcoming and would not allow independent assessment of their statements that the teen was recovering. There is no evidence to support that she ever came of of mechanical ventilation or life support. All this proved is that a body can be ventilated. Oh, and so you now, Anoxic brain injury listed on the death certicate would certify certain anatomical changes including destruction of brain tissue (liquefying to put it gently). YOU ARE LYING because 8 seconds of research states that anoxic brain injury was a part of her death.

But, please, by all means, dont let the facts get in your way. For some reason speaking with you I recall an axiom learned a long time ago: He who knows what he knows not is wise, follow him. He who knows not what he knows not is a fool, shun him.

I think you deserve shunning, and you of course will not offer a single shred of evidence contradicting my statement. You have created the lie of omission.

Peace be with you in this Holy Season.


74 posted on 04/10/2020 7:44:09 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

“She died 4 years later...”

Yet you insisted she was a corpse. Dead. Decomposing in 2013.

You still lap up your own vomit, as the Proverbs say about the dog.


75 posted on 04/10/2020 8:05:05 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

And you offer no response to the rest of my post but come back with a proverb. You area like the Pharisees and scribes. You misquote scripture with superiority and this is I won’t serve you well. Anyone can see that you failed to answer the statement. So be it. It’s ok you can’t answer the statement because use the truth is absolute and prevails.

You have shown your true colors and you are like the brood of vipers.


76 posted on 04/10/2020 8:22:54 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

“And you offer no response to the rest of my post “

I have no problem with the rest of your post, why you thought any of anything else you wrote was objected to by me is a mystery.

You called her a corpse. A cadaver. Equated her to a buried body. Said she was decomposing.

Greatly insulted and demeaned anyone who questioned your spiteful rhetoric.

Yet she lived five years more.

And you come back saying, “she was on a ventilator” as if that was a controversial statement. Lol.

“There is no evidence to support that she ever came of of mechanical ventilation or life support.”

No one claimed that, you make no sense, except to change the subject, obfuscate and misdirect.


77 posted on 04/10/2020 8:32:12 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

Her body was ventilated for five more years, there is no shred of evidence that I am incorrect. So stop pretending there is. I am glad you admit to my being correct.

Good night


78 posted on 04/10/2020 8:40:29 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

Well there may be a lot of jerks here, but they are conservative jerks, and I prefer them to out and out ‘RATs.


79 posted on 04/10/2020 9:02:03 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Ok — your point is well taken


80 posted on 04/10/2020 9:13:49 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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