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Trump Is Pushing a False Argument on Vote-by-Mail Fraud. Here Are the Facts.
NY Times via Yahoo! News ^ | April 9, 2020 | by Stephanie Saul and Reid J. Epstein ,The New York Times

Posted on 04/09/2020 7:42:31 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ballot harvesting’s not voter fraud, when California liberals do it because the Dem legislature made it legal in their state. It’s only vote fraud if a Republican does it in another state.

Counting illegals as if they are citizens is not voter fraud because it’s never been objected to.

Guessing what voters meant when they dimpled a ballot isn’t vote fraud because a Dem legislature made it legal...

Giving an office to the wife of a deceased candidate isn’t fraud because no one dared stop it...

Dems use law to legalize their ethical shortcomings so they can get off on technicalities.


21 posted on 04/09/2020 8:02:10 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

TWO authors!


22 posted on 04/09/2020 8:02:45 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/04/08/wisconsin-election-3-tubs-ballots-found-mail-processing-center/2971078001/


23 posted on 04/09/2020 8:03:50 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: eyeamok

It’s a case of “Few studies have shown” versus “Few studies have been done.”

Here’s some analogies: If voting had as much surveillance as, say, the banking system, or the SEC performs for (non-Congressional) insider trading, do we think there’d be few cases of fraud?

Or, we could look at COVID infections among the homeless. “Few instances of COVID infection have been found in homeless encampments” vs “Centuries of experience have linked disease to unsanitary conditions.”


24 posted on 04/09/2020 8:04:28 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
.. Here Are the Facts
NY Times via Yahoo! News

Enemedia2

             

25 posted on 04/09/2020 8:09:21 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: JPJones

Remember all of the democRAT run states that fought that study tooth and nail, every step of the way? They refused to cooperate in every manner and even filed lawsuits to prevent the Voter Registration records from being examined. That is why the commission was abandoned and discontinued. There were numerous counties (democRAT controlled) where the number of “votes” out-numbered the number of eligible registered voters. There are several of those same states who REFUSE to remove dead people from their voter roles.

It certainly was NOT due to a lack of evidence of Voter Fraud.


26 posted on 04/09/2020 8:09:48 AM PDT by Howie66 ("...Against All Enemies, Foreign and Democrat.....")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I agree with Trump on mail on ballots. I don’t mind early polling days but mail in ballots and voting on the internet make me uncomfortable.


27 posted on 04/09/2020 8:12:10 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If the NYT reports that it is a “fact” that the sun rises in the east, I will be up before dawn to verify it.

Any “fact” they have stated in the past too often turned out to be anti-American, communist, or anti-Semitic.


28 posted on 04/09/2020 8:12:31 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
A panel that Trump charged with investigating election corruption found no real evidence of fraud before he disbanded it in 2018.

um...because RAT states refused to co-operate...
29 posted on 04/09/2020 8:13:05 AM PDT by stylin19a (2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: Howie66

Good catch, I actually did forget that, thanks for reminding.


30 posted on 04/09/2020 8:14:16 AM PDT by JPJones (More Tariffs, less income tax.)
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To: Reddy

Personally, I believe that ANYBODY who engages in Voter Fraud/Intimidation, Ballot/Tampering/Harvesting/Manipulation or other similar action should be subject to the most severe of penalties.

The price that has been and is paid for OUR right of Self Determination is far too great to be trifled with.


31 posted on 04/09/2020 8:15:34 AM PDT by Howie66 ("...Against All Enemies, Foreign and Democrat.....")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Im sick of this rationale. If anyone remembers, here are two big examples (of many) where voter fraud impacted entire communities. The first was Miami back in the late 90s. That election was overturned. The WP never mentioned the number, but it was 1,000s of ballots - not dozens or hundreds.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1998/02/03/outright-fraud-found-in-miami-mayoral-elections/fde2b2ea-e3f5-4484-a036-f1823ca2c569/

“We find absentee ballot fraud clearly played an important part in the recent City of Miami elections,” the report said. “Evidence of outright fraud in the absentee balloting process called into question the legitimacy” of the results.

The real bad one was in Alabama. This happened before the internet was popular, so there is very little online about it.

https://www.al.com/news/2018/07/alabama_expanding_voter_fraud.html

This crap stated in 1994. Greene county. Eleven people all got caught and confessed..... go research that travesty. It’s dem on dem. and since mostly a minority county, no lib really cares.


32 posted on 04/09/2020 8:20:26 AM PDT by Nifty
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All
Thank you for posting that graphic Oldeconomybuyer.

Ballot harvesting breaks the chain of official custody of the mail-in ballots, unsuspecting voters having no assurance that their ballot won’t be tampered with or wind up in the wrong hands.

Corrections, insights welcome.

Send "Orange Man Bad" federal and state government Democrats and RINOs home in November!

Supporting PDJT with a new patriot Congress and state government leaders that will promise to fully support his already excellent work for MAGA and stopping COVID-19 will effectively give fast-working Trump a third term in office imo.

MAGA, also KAGA! (Keep America Great Always!)

Here’s a related pict. (Click pict.)


33 posted on 04/09/2020 8:20:41 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If there is n Fraud, why do Democrats oppose Voter ID Laws?

Is producing an ID harder to do at a Polling Location than it is at an Airport or a Liquor Store?

Of course, giving Illegal Invaders a DL that looks like a regular DL doesn’t help matters.


34 posted on 04/09/2020 8:21:06 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: stylin19a

No real evidence of fraud?

Tell that to the good people of Washington Stater, who elected Dino Rossi as their governor in 2004....

Except that due to vote fraud, Christine Gregoire was the one sworn in as governor. It’d take too long to relate the entire story.


35 posted on 04/09/2020 8:21:45 AM PDT by hoagy62 (DTCM&OTTH)
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That's the election where after the original count boxes of ballots were "found" that contained ballots from people who had registered to vote using the election office as their address. Apparently there was a loophole that allowed voters who supposedly had no address to register using the address of the election office. Supposedly random homeless people knew about this arcane law and dutifully filed all the paperwork to be able to vote absentee using the address of the election office itself.

And then they all voted Democrat for Gregoire.

And that is just the beginning of the story of an obviously fraudulent election.

36 posted on 04/09/2020 8:28:57 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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"Voting fraud in the United States is rare..."

Sure, in most cases examples of voting fraud only turn up once every 2 or 4 years, so it is rare...

37 posted on 04/09/2020 8:32:17 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They’re claiming to know the unknowable.

Unless we did a massive audit it’s very difficult to detect fraud. We know there’s thousand of people in every State that should be purged from the voter roll. How many of them still manage to ‘vote’? How many vote in multiple State’s?


38 posted on 04/09/2020 8:33:57 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: hoagy62

I remember. They found uncounted mail-in ballots, and a bunch of counties other than King found “uncounted” ballots.
Not that he would have won but not taking it to the Wash. Supreme Court was a mistake.
This was before all mail-in ballots, but it was the mail-in ballots that perpetrated the fraud .

There’s also the Al Franken fiasco...


39 posted on 04/09/2020 8:36:28 AM PDT by stylin19a (2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Like somebody's going to go to the New York Times for facts!
40 posted on 04/09/2020 8:39:01 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Thank God for President Trump!)
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