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To: grey_whiskers

Higher O2 is not always a good thing. >60% is hyperoxemic tx and promotes fibrosis via free radical injury. Proning does not improve 30 day survivability, although it does transiently improve oxygenation, so maybe its just enough to get someone on the fence through. Head down is a bad idea in prone or supine ventilation as it causes an increase in WEST Zone three via a restrictive mechanism (abdominal contents reducing thoracic volume). So the notion of draining is not founded.


130 posted on 04/07/2020 3:05:38 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr
Head down is a bad idea in prone or supine ventilation as it causes an increase in WEST Zone three via a restrictive mechanism (abdominal contents reducing thoracic volume). So the notion of draining is not founded.

They showed (what was it?) 7% or 14% increased survival in ICU patients with this Coronavirus in a real-life hospital setting, other things being equal. Theory should FOLLOW data. Mumble harrumph "not well designed" mumble "small sample" mumble "no control group" ...

well, the medics in the thick of this were a bit overwhelmed for that at the moment, IIRC that report came from...Italy.

144 posted on 04/07/2020 3:30:29 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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