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Some needed realistic perspective from VDH.
1 posted on 04/07/2020 9:37:20 AM PDT by facedown
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To: facedown
indred realists add that, should the shutdown continue much longer, the increase in suicides, depression, anxieties, stress, and substance abuse may ultimately kill more Americans than COVID-19 — well aside from the multiyear ripples of damage from a multi-trillion-dollar hit to the economy and a staggering debt passed on to generations of Americans not yet born.

In one of my favorite Three Stooges episode, Curly backs into a cactus and ends up with dozens of needles sticking out of his behind. Moe grabs a pair of pliers and starts pulling them out, making Curly yelp. Larry, though, grabs a pair of scissors and starts snipping the needles off.

"Hey!" cries Moe, "you're leavin' the ends in!"

"So what?" Larry replies. "They don't show!"

2 posted on 04/07/2020 9:46:26 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: facedown

The models were constructed based on the assumption that no measures would be taken to control the spread of Covid-19.

The biology of the virus is what drives the models, and why countries all over the world have instituted strict social distancing measures. A cold virus that causes over 5% mortality in people it infects cannot be taken lightly.

Remember the social distancing guidelines when the 2015 Ebola outbreak occurred? Oh, wait—they didn’t happen. Because Ebola is a bloodborne pathogen, not a respiratory virus, there was no need to implement any kind of control measures. So back then, some people panicked, and I posted all kinds of information on why there was no need to worry. And that outbreak was contained, and no one has paid any attention to subsequent outbreaks because there really is nothing to worry about.

Knowing a pathogen’s characteristics is the key to knowing what kind of response is necessary.


3 posted on 04/07/2020 9:48:19 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: facedown

It isn’t entirely true that shutting down the economy was the wrong thing to do. It is a matter of perspective. If you are a Democrat, it was necessary to stop Donald Trump from saying things about how black unemployment was at its lowest point in history, along with all the other things he could point to as accomplishments in his illegitimate presidency. The virus came at a very auspicious time, saving our social safety net from being destroyed by full employment and excessive capitalism.

And remember the uproar over California’s gig economy law? You were hearing a lot about that before the shutdown, even from artists and actors put out of work by it. But they aren’t complaining now, because everyone is out of work

So it really worked out very well, a smashing success, and the longer it can be stretched out, the better for Joe Biden’s vice president.


4 posted on 04/07/2020 9:49:43 AM PDT by webheart (L)
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To: facedown

I like to call it the Jor-El Syndrome.

Scientists who think they are all so freaking brilliant that ONLY BY LISTENING TO ME can you poor wretches possibly hope to save yourselves!


5 posted on 04/07/2020 9:57:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: facedown
Nice piece. There are a couple of caveats here for those of us with good memories - the first thing that anyone asks the modelers is for a worst-case scenario. Through media repetition and malicious misrepresentation that becomes some sort of baseline. They can, after all, always move the goal posts later and some of that is going on right now. Nobody much asks for a best-case scenario until later when it's safe, because let's face it, those don't sell newspapers or confer power.

VDH makes another point which is worth hammering in - we know most of the early, i.e. Chinese, data were and remain crap. Even if the models were sound (that isn't a given) you're stuck trying to make policy based either on bad data or no data at all. And it isn't just politics, lives depend on it. So, is it better to be an alarmist or a Pollyanna, since you'll be criticized for both?

We're now - I hope - at the stage where a little hindsight is faced with a similar quandary: how much of the results we're actually seeing is the result of an overestimate and how much due to actions taken? Either way, count me in the Optimist column. We're not through this thing yet and there will be a lot of rebuilding but it's pretty certain that the worst-case estimates were wrong.

6 posted on 04/07/2020 10:00:34 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: facedown
Eeyore’s outbursts of depression could at first be salutatory

I take it he means "salutary."

7 posted on 04/07/2020 10:00:57 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( Ready to move on and give the Dems Covfefe-'20!)
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To: facedown

VDH always a good read


8 posted on 04/07/2020 10:05:07 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: facedown

Eeyore is my favorite literary character, second is not even close.

“Good morning, Pooh. If it is a good morning. Which I doubt”


9 posted on 04/07/2020 10:05:20 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: facedown

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

— H. L. Mencken

This hobgoblin isn’t imaginary, but it could easily be argued it was exaggerated.


10 posted on 04/07/2020 10:07:21 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: facedown

Mean while as a basically ignorant optimist comparing apples to rutabagas, Rush is every day jumping the shark.

It’s embarrassing to listen to his mish mash


14 posted on 04/07/2020 10:52:24 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: facedown

VDH started with a promising premise, then buried it in an unwarranted avalanche of thirty-dollar words.

Eeyore’s best known saying is “Thanks for noticing”, where he is acknowledging someone having noted that he is present.

VDH does not appear content until the most erudite is reaching for the dictionary.


16 posted on 04/07/2020 12:02:14 PM PDT by MortMan (Shouldn't "palindrome" read the same forward and backward?)
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To: facedown

Eeyore=pessimist=Dr. Wasshole


24 posted on 04/08/2020 6:46:09 AM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: facedown

He wants to kill Grandma.


28 posted on 04/08/2020 8:42:24 AM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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