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A ‘Liberty’ Rebellion in Idaho Threatens to Undermine Coronavirus Orders
New York Times ^ | April 7, 2020 | Mike Baker

Posted on 04/07/2020 9:35:37 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom

Inside an old factory building north of Boise, a few dozen people gathered to hear from Ammon Bundy. The meeting, which appeared to violate orders by Gov. Brad Little of Idaho to avoid group gatherings, was an assertion of what Mr. Bundy said was a constitutional right to peacefully assemble. But Mr. Bundy said he also hoped to create a network of people ready to come to the aid of those facing closure of their businesses or other interference from the government.

“If it gets bad enough, and our rights are infringed upon enough, we can physically stand in defense in whatever way we need to,” Mr. Bundy told the meeting. “But we hope we don’t have to get there.” In a state with pockets of deep wariness about both big government and mainstream medicine, the sweeping restrictions aimed at containing the spread of the virus have run into outright rebellion in some parts of Idaho, which is facing its own worrying spike in coronavirus cases. The opposition is coming not only from people like Mr. Bundy but also from some state lawmakers and a county sheriff who are calling the governor’s statewide stay-at-home order an infringement on individual liberties.

Health care providers and others have been horrified at the public calls to countermand social-distancing requirements, warning that failing to take firm measures could overwhelm Idaho’s small hospitals and put large numbers of people at risk of dying. “There are a lot of people that listen to those voices around here,” said Dr. Hans Hurt, an emergency doctor at Bonner General Health, a medical center in the town of Sandpoint. “Even if it’s just a small group that wants to exercise their right to assemble, it puts the community at large at such a high risk.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: covid19; freedom; idaho; liberty; patriotism; rebellion
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The article, in its zeal to paint all Idahoans as knuckle-dragging Neanderthals, fails to point out some critical things that are not very attractive to the NYT and Democrats. Look at the map below which I grabbed from the Idaho Division of Public Health Idaho COVID-19 Dashboard a couple minutes ago.

This is a classic case of Figures Lie and Liars Figure. Here are some observations based on the map:

  1. Note both the absolute number of cases and deaths in Idaho. They are low.
  2. The Idaho state hotspots are largely Democrat areas. Blaine County is where Sun Valley is located and it has a HUGE number of private jets flying in with very wealthy skiers from LA, San Fran, Seattle and other Democrat locations. The same hotspot phenomenon was seen in the Aspen / Vail areas a month ago. The wealthy imported COVID on their private jets.
  3. Boise, the State Capitol and heavily Democrat, is in Ada County. Next-door Canyon County is largely a commuting suburb of the State Capitol.
  4. When you exclude the heavily Democrat hot-spot counties, you see that Idaho is a low-COVID state.

Let's look at the overall Idaho numbers and the Idaho numbers EXCLUDING the Democrat hot-spots:

The per-capita rate of Idaho OUTSIDE THE LIBERAL DEMOCRAT enclaves is less than ONE-SIXTH that of the Democrat counties.

1 posted on 04/07/2020 9:35:37 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“The Idaho state hotspots are largely Democrat areas.”

The vast majority of hotspots in the nation are craphole blue states and craphole blue cities.


2 posted on 04/07/2020 9:38:40 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
“If it gets bad enough, and our rights are infringed upon enough, we can physically stand in defense in whatever way we need to,” Mr. Bundy told the meeting. “But we hope we don’t have to get there.”

Thank God for Mr Bundy and common sense.

3 posted on 04/07/2020 9:40:21 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I support Bundy.


4 posted on 04/07/2020 9:40:23 AM PDT by impimp
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Blaine county is showing how elites impact this virus with more cases.

Can’t blame that high % on race or lack of health care.


5 posted on 04/07/2020 9:42:12 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (NYers fleeing NY are presumed to be infected. They should be tested/quarantined in any other state!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
The Idaho state hotspots are largely Democrat areas.

That applies everywhere else.

6 posted on 04/07/2020 9:42:28 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Here’s the reporting form in Tucson Arizona if you see a business infraction of COVID restrictions

https://www.tucsonaz.gov/manager/covid-19-social-distancing-online-reporting-form?fbclid=IwAR1DO_1i9UJ2lI7GYXr-EOTbPtoQbhu4RS4oAVmU5X1_WhSL5viyVqJq24A


7 posted on 04/07/2020 9:45:50 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: impimp

I think bundy belongs in prison


8 posted on 04/07/2020 9:49:12 AM PDT by Okeydoker
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To: Grampa Dave

Nope. In Sun Valley, Aspen and Vail, blame it on extreme liberal wealth.


9 posted on 04/07/2020 9:50:22 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Blane County has the highest per capita infection rate in the USA right now. The jet setters are fleeing their big cities and have thoroughly infected this one county.


10 posted on 04/07/2020 9:50:40 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Even in Ada county(Boise) the death rate based on the proven infections is 7/10 of 1%. Do the math.
There are more people that die from car accidents/cancer/heart disease DAILY than Kung Flu.

Plus there are many more people that have it and do not show effects and therefore have never been tested. IF you factor that in the death rate is in the hundreds of a percent.


11 posted on 04/07/2020 9:50:58 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963 (uestion.)
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To: DLfromthedesert

“Business Infraction Reporting Form”...everybody should report the state government in Phoenix! There isn’t a more “non-essential” business anywhere.


12 posted on 04/07/2020 9:52:19 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Okeydoker

You are entitled to your opinion no matter how uninformed you sound. Fortunately more of us will stand with the patriots than will cavil from the bleachers.


13 posted on 04/07/2020 9:55:26 AM PDT by ammomajor (If 'helicopter Ben' says gold isn't money, I want more of it.)
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To: Okeydoker

Go back to DU


14 posted on 04/07/2020 9:58:56 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: God luvs America
I also love that the dateline is Sandpoint in Bonner county, and yet the first line is “In an abandoned factory north of Boise...” While it is technically true that Sandpoint is north of Boise, it is several hundred miles away. Apparently the NYT “reporter” can't figure out that the whole state of Idaho isn't a Boise suburb.
15 posted on 04/07/2020 10:35:34 AM PDT by nuke_road_warrior (Making the world safe for nuclear power for over 20 years)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The article, in its zeal to paint all Idahoans as knuckle-dragging Neanderthals, fails to point out some critical things that are not very attractive to the NYT and Democrats. Look at the map below which I grabbed from the Idaho Division of Public Health Idaho COVID-19 Dashboard a couple minutes ago.

This is a classic case of Figures Lie and Liars Figure. Here are some observations based on the map:

Note both the absolute number of cases and deaths in Idaho. They are low.

The Idaho state hotspots are largely Democrat areas.

Blaine County is where Sun Valley is located and it has a HUGE number of private jets flying in with very wealthy skiers from LA, San Fran, Seattle and other Democrat locations. The same hotspot phenomenon was seen in the Aspen / Vail areas a month ago. The wealthy imported COVID on their private jets.

Boise, the State Capitol and heavily Democrat, is in Ada County. Next-door Canyon County is largely a commuting suburb of the State Capitol.

When you exclude the heavily Democrat hot-spot counties, you see that Idaho is a low-COVID state.

Thanks for posting the above. For about 4 weeks, I have been posting that many of our cases of COVID are the elites who fly in chartered planes or own them and use chauffeured vehicles to get to their planes and from their planes to one of their many homes.


16 posted on 04/07/2020 10:38:36 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (NYers fleeing NY are presumed to be infected. They should be tested/quarantined in any other state!)
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Apparently the NYT “reporter” can't figure out that the whole state of Idaho isn't a Boise suburb.

LOL...good one. A three hour drive on a good day just to get out of the Boise suburb.

17 posted on 04/07/2020 10:41:55 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Never fear the cow)
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“Apparently the NYT “reporter” can’t figure out that the whole state of Idaho isn’t a Boise suburb.”

Thanks for making that point. That occurred very quickly to me, too, but I forgot to mention that. You are exactly right.

It seems they bring their Boston - NYC - Philly - Washington DC Eastern Corridor ethos with them, doesn’t it? They believe the WHOLE country revolves around that Eastern Corridor. The author seems to believe the entire state of Idaho is just like Boise and Sun Valley.

The state is becoming like New York State — the south is the “urban,” liberal, and state capitol area while the north is the much more conservative and much more lightly populated. My very first recollections of politics when I was a kid were of my Dad complaining about how the liberal assholes in New York City were bleeding us “upstaters” dry.


18 posted on 04/07/2020 10:44:10 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Uncle Lonny

The Blaine County infection occurred during the regular Ski Season.

Peeps weren’t fleeing, they were just flying in from all over the world to go skiing. Then things got weird.

Given the current per capita concentration of infection, smart peeps would no longer go there.


19 posted on 04/07/2020 10:44:11 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Grampa Dave

We live in a VERY conservative county in eastern Idaho and we reported our first case last week.

For us, we are just happy that cattle apparently don’t transmit the virus!


20 posted on 04/07/2020 10:44:23 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Never fear the cow)
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