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Thought it was interesting that when Captain Crozier was leaving his ship. All the personal on the ship where crowed together and cheering him on?

Wait a minute I though the ship had Coronavirus? If so, then why were they all together saying good bye?

1 posted on 04/07/2020 9:04:50 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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You can’t catch what you already have.


2 posted on 04/07/2020 9:06:44 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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I am glad Trump is getting involved.
This has all the feel of someone in the military or State Dept leaking his to the press.


3 posted on 04/07/2020 9:06:48 AM PDT by Zathras
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Poor Trump he doesn’t get a break does he?! I HATE THE MEDIAVOMITS!! DESPISE THEM!!


4 posted on 04/07/2020 9:06:56 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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Trump BETTER side with Modly!! Crozier needs to be Court-Martialed!


5 posted on 04/07/2020 9:08:21 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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The slime media will report Trump interfering with the military (which, of course, he has every right to) in three, two, one.

What’s the background of this “acting” SecNav?

If you do not HATE, loathe, and f*rt in the general direction of the media, you really are not well informed.


6 posted on 04/07/2020 9:09:05 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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Crozier was sick with Covid. Might have impacted his judgment.


7 posted on 04/07/2020 9:09:09 AM PDT by cmj328 (We live here.)
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If so, then why were they all together saying good bye?

They were on a Navy ship. Where were they supposed to go?

8 posted on 04/07/2020 9:09:41 AM PDT by semimojo
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Crozier’s job was to deal with the problem. His successor will have to do what he didn’t do.

Its tough to deal with this aboard ship but might be tougher still if you dump 5000 sailors in a port that isn’t able to deal with them. And you can’t simply unman a nuke.


9 posted on 04/07/2020 9:10:11 AM PDT by marron
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Trump To Settle Dispute Between Modly And Fired Capt. Crozier

No aircraft carrier named "Trump." Oh well.

10 posted on 04/07/2020 9:11:06 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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How will those with TDS spin this? They were the ones claiming Trump personally fired Captain Crozier.

Here is my take. It appears Captain Crozier communicated military readiness levels, which are always classified, over standard email (NIPRNET), rather than over the SIPRNET. If so, that was a major screw-up.


13 posted on 04/07/2020 9:13:14 AM PDT by magellan
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Shhhh...

It is our duty to do what we can for our people - even be a pain in the ass with our superiors...I stood in front of commanders a number of times to plead mercy or rewards for some of my people and pissed a number of commanders off....but I did it the right way and didn't leak 20+ copies of 5-page letters that undermined my chain of command, and which could have National Security ramifications...I agree with the Sec of the Navy calling him too stupid to be in command.

14 posted on 04/07/2020 9:15:25 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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Be careful, Mr. President. None of the great commanders in military history — the ones who actually won battles — tried to win a popularity contest with the men under their command. Rather, they were respected for their cunning, their up-front leadership, and their ability to push them to their limit.


18 posted on 04/07/2020 9:19:35 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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The crew had been tested and those who had the virus had already been removed.


19 posted on 04/07/2020 9:20:01 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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I was not in the Navy, so I will defer to anyone who understand the chain of command or carrier operations.

We do know that these 5000 people live in very close quarters. I imagine viruses spread quickly all the time aboard ship. We also know this particular disease has a very limited affect on the young and health (ie. sailors). large ships like this do have functioning hospitals and doctors, do they not?

why not simply test everyone onboard regularly, to track the spread? Bring on enough HCQ and Azt to treat everyone, whether they show symptoms or not. Make everyone wear masks. Clean the ship regularly. Even bring a aboard some extra ventilators and nurses, just in case. Then in a few weeks, test everyone for antibody formation - they would provide invaluable information to the CDC and the rest of the nation.

I am just amazed how easily America’s largest, most expensive weapons system has been neutralized by a virus - and deep-state politics. What kind of message does that send to our enemies?


20 posted on 04/07/2020 9:20:39 AM PDT by PGR88
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Face saver give him another position, but not his old one.

Trump already knows what he will do and what will fly or he wouldn’t entertain any further discussion for the press.

I for one am enjoying his nightly put downs on some of the idiotic attempts they try on him...

No more sit back and take it.


21 posted on 04/07/2020 9:22:50 AM PDT by patriotspride
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“If he didn’t think, in my opinion, that this information wasn’t going to get out into the public in this day and information age that we live in, then he was either ‘A’ too naive or too stupid to be commanding officer of a ship like this.”

Absolutely correct. And especially when you CC 22 people, including people outside your chain of command and even outside the Navy.

This grinning idiot had no place commanding a carrier. His crew was so untrained and so undisciplined that several hundred of them gathered close together to cheer him goodbye. They live streamed it.
Yeah, never heard of distancing, and streaming video from a warship.

Good riddance.


22 posted on 04/07/2020 9:23:03 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Capt. Crozier’s “career prior to that was very good,” the president continued, “so I’m going to get involved and see exactly what’s going on there. Because I don’t want to destroy somebody for having a bad day.”

Sounds pretty fair to me.

24 posted on 04/07/2020 9:24:13 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( Stop the fearmongering! Post flu statistics along side COVID-19 statistics!)
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I hope he uncovers all that was attempted prior to the infamous email. That said, the Captain well and truly screwed the pooch.


30 posted on 04/07/2020 9:31:27 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Sorry, your race card has been declined. Can you present any other form of argument?")
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Modly needs to go. He was right - and the message he delivered to the crew was 100% wrong.


38 posted on 04/07/2020 9:36:12 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong and did I say wrong?

Crozier compromised national security. Captains of major war fighting defense assets are not allowed to have a bad day like that. He may be sick, he may need to take a break or sit one out and hand things over to his exec but that is all he is allowed.

Trump is opening a can of worms that are going to get all over him on this one.

Crosier also allowed liberty in Vietnam during the epidemic. Not a smart move. Not smart at all. I would never have even put in. The ship is there for national defense. That is the primary if not only mission. Keep the ship and crew in fighting trim recognizing and avoiding risk to the mission.

Crosier made bad decisions with bad outcomes. He needs to count himself lucky to get off with a lack of confidence charge and not much worse. Bad stuff happens when people make bad decisions under stress. Ice water for blood is a requisite.

I don’t see how they guy ever got the command. Something in the system slipped up.


39 posted on 04/07/2020 9:38:17 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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