Posted on 04/07/2020 5:04:22 AM PDT by Kaslin
At his coronavirus press conference on Saturday, April 4, President Donald Trump emphasized again that we have to restart business. But Allergy and Infectious Disease director Dr. Anthony Fauci has subtly if indirectly demurred on the possibility of such a restart. That puts Trump closer to virus checkmate than he realizes. He has moves, but they come from the misunderstood and misreported program of Swedish Voluntary Mitigation.
Dr. Fauci remarkably states that America can restart as soon as there are no more deaths or even positive infections. The problem is that may never happen. The social separation of the CDC/NIH reduces immediate hospitalizations, but also limits community immunity. So as soon as social separation ends, the second wave of infections begins. Under the CDC/NIH plan, the population over 60 will remain in continuing peril for years, unless a vaccine becomes available. And that also may never happen, as it did not for AIDs.
That is the virus checkmate: Social separation prevents community immunity, so attempts to restart the economy may also restart the virus. For a third of the population, quarantine never ends. Dr. Fauci understands the implications of his policy. Trump and his team need to move out of virus checkmate now.
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Infection is a bell curve, always a bell curve. The herd is building up immunity constantly. The worst is past, and it wasn’t very bad.
Agree. At the Walmart near my house, folks seemed more relaxed yesterday ~ there were a few in full Darth Vader gear, but generally, think people are tired of the hype, which can only continue at fever pitch for so long before we stop noticing it.
Obvious solution is to figure out how to make masks and how to test again, and then, slowly, begin to restart the economy.
Also, consider NOT exporting those masks and tests.
“The worst is past, and it wasnt very bad.”
We’ll find that out when we end social distancing.
We have a hint of that already.
Detroit's Henry Ford Hospital has 734 workers who have tested positive for COVID-19. Beaumont Health Systems has 1,500 of it's 38,000 workers in home isolation with COVID-19-like symptoms (but not confirmed with testing.)
So far, one nurse has died (in her home, not on a ventilator) that was COVID-19 positive. She was reported to be asthmatic.
If the death rate of COVID-19 is 3 percent, there should be at least 60 who have died by now.
And you know the media would be filled with sensationalized horror stories about our front line medical workers dropping like flies from COVID-19 if that were the case. But there have been none.
At mine yesterday there were actually more in masks and gloves than I've seen so far with a handful of guys just using kerchiefs as makeshift masks but they too were generally relaxed and calm but hurried and most were keeping their distance from each other, but nearly everyone seemed were in a hurry to get done and get out of the store even though Walmart was practicing the newly adopted safe distancing store guidelines.
But the lane crowding or bunching on a handful of lanes was still going on. I avoided those lanes and circled back later myself. Oh, for the most part there very few children in the store unlike before and usually passels of the rug rats are racing all around the store getting in peoples way and underfoot. This Walmart is in a farming community for the most part with a large section of Section 8 housing nearby which helps to explain the many unruly children running around before this new policy went into effect.
“If the death rate of COVID-19 is 3 percent, there should be at least 60 who have died by now. “
I doubt the rest of them have fully recovered yet. Also, I don’t know too many people claiming that the 3% is constant across all age groups - everything that I’ve seen says the vast majority of deaths start at age 60, when many have retired.
But yes, after another 2 or 3 weeks (when most are recovered or dead) it will be interesting to see a plot of age of victims and death rates of them.
That's how I am too, well except the hurried part. Folks see my mask, goggles, trench coat and gloves and interpret it as fear. I'm not. (See my tagline). I go out of my way to be extra friendly to the guy putting out the bananas or the gal at the register.
No need for a slow restart unless you have a regular government check. Then you can wait and wait. Private sector emloyeees cannot wait on a slow start up.
Mask and tests help SLOW the spread. They will not stop the spread.
Most of us are going to get this. The sooner the better.
For me, more interesting than age would be other underlying medical conditions.
As some have suggested, COVID death rates have been inflated by reporting people who died with COVID-19, but not necessarily from COVID-19.
I do know that the latest statistics from Michigan show that the average age of death 71.8, the median age is 73, and the age range is 20 to 107.
Please define what death rate is. Define both the numerator and the denominator. Dont toss around scary numbers without putting them in perspective.
Those who lost their jobs or will likely lose their jobs would disagree. Those who are living day to day in panic mode would disagree.
I know you are talking about the virus itself, but it required the near complete shutdown of the country and crippling of the economy to keep the numbers under some sense of control. We still do not know what follow-up exposures to the virus will mean in the months ahead.
It’s odd how we’re all so willing to go through this process without any information from China.
China is the cause of all this, and has a 3-month head-start on most nations in data and experience.
Political leadership appears perfectly willing to let China suppress all data, expel reporters and dictate the policy of the WHO.
It is idiotic to attempt a response to this that does not include information from China. The fact that China is unwilling to provide such, or more inclined to lie, should be telling us something.
“Dr. Fauci remarkably states that America can restart as soon as there are no more deaths or even positive infections. The problem is that may never happen.”
Which is absurd.
Start things up and let the chips fall as they may.
Absolute priority should be testing everyone with good antibody tests to determine the real character of this flu.
I was telling my wife yesterday that if I have to wear a mask, it’ll be a red bandana and I’ll wear a black George Strait Resistol and be packing a Ruger Blackhawk...
“Define both the numerator and the denominator.”
Number dead divided by the number recovered+dead.
Pretty easy.
“Most of us are going to get this. The sooner the better.”
Sweden’s pretty much trying that (with some restrictions, but not many). We’ll see how they’re doing in 2 weeks and if they stick with it.
Nobody knows what the true denominator is. We cannot test everyone in the country and the CDC appears to have no interest in doing a random sample to estimate the true denominator. Why is this? Probably because they suspect they have made a monumental mistake in destroying the economy and they don’t want us to know the truth.
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