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There’s another side to the story of the fired Navy Captain
American Thinker ^ | April 4, 2020 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 04/04/2020 9:30:04 AM PDT by jazusamo

Everyone is up in arms about the fact that the Navy brass fired Captain Brett Crozier, of the USS Theodore Roosevelt, a Nimitz-class nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, after Crozier complained about people on his ship being infected with COVID-19. To many people, he was a lone man fighting a hardened bureaucracy on behalf of the men and women in his care. To others, though, he was a dangerous malcontent who placed his entire ship at risk by ignoring rules that exist for a reason.

The report about Captain Brett Crozier, whose ship, the USS Roosevelt, was docked in Guam, broke like a bomb on March 31. Here’s the Stars and Stripes report on that day:

The captain of the USS Theodore Roosevelt has requested permission to remove most of the aircraft carrier’s crew from the ship and isolate roughly 4,000 sailors to help curtail a coronavirus outbreak aboard the vessel.

Capt. Brett Crozier wrote in an unaddressed letter Monday to Navy leadership that the ship’s environment is “most conducive to spread of the disease” with open shared sleeping areas, shared restrooms and workspaces, and confined passageways to move through on the ship. He wrote the Roosevelt’s crew is unable to follow Centers for Disease Control and Prevention or Navy procedures to protect the health of sailors through individual isolation on the ship for 14 or more days.

“Due to a warship's inherent limitations of space, we are not doing this. The spread of the disease is ongoing and accelerating,” Crozier wrote.

Crozier was an instant hero for taking a stand on behalf of his crew. Indeed, the Navy’s initial response was to say that Crozier would not be punished for being so candid about conditions aboard his ship.

However, two days after the Crozier story broke, the Navy removed him...

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: brettcrozier; captaincrozier; chainofcommand; coronavirus; crozier; guam; navy; relievedofcommand; usnavy; ussroosevelt; worstexcerptever
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To: elenvee

Just about certain he is going to have to find a community to retire that has just about no retired officers. If I discovered he was in the same old folks home I would beat him with my cane.


61 posted on 04/04/2020 11:47:56 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: firebrand

The article states he did not try prior to emailing it to them world’

Did I miss something?


62 posted on 04/04/2020 11:49:38 AM PDT by stanne
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To: higgmeister

I have known people who got waivers. I mentioned the other day I had a patient who was a CW5. I said, “I didn’t know there was such a thing.” He said, “There aren’t many of us.” He had 35 years in at that point and he wasn’t going anywhere.

If you have skills that are hard to replace they waiver you til death.


63 posted on 04/04/2020 11:50:25 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: stanne

I read that he only notified once. Maybe it was in a different version of the story.


64 posted on 04/04/2020 11:54:09 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: jazusamo

“Everyone around here is up in arms...”

Clearly, this writer doesn’t read FR.


65 posted on 04/04/2020 11:54:29 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: jazusamo

We need to learn all of the facts about this incident. The captain is either a hero or a traitor.


66 posted on 04/04/2020 11:57:04 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: wastoute
Yes, well, CW5 is right at the top like an Admiral, and is not an NCO.

Did you know there are no Warrant Officers in the USAF? I actually saw one of the last two in the stairwell of the Comm Group building at McClellan AFB in 1976. I was so shocked, I didn't even realize what I was seeing at the time. Then I realized that was blue enamel squares on those Lieutenant bars.

67 posted on 04/04/2020 11:59:31 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Nifster

Like Vindman he did not follow chain of command

Shouldn’t be in military
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Both of them should be court-martialed.


68 posted on 04/04/2020 12:01:09 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (To save America the Left MUST be aggressively attacked on every front.)
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To: brownsfan

That’s my take. If an enlisted had broken the chain of command the way this guy did, there would be a court marshal, and potential dishonable discharge.
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Yes, he should be court-martialed because his rash behavior could have put that ship at risk.


69 posted on 04/04/2020 12:03:45 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (To save America the Left MUST be aggressively attacked on every front.)
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To: higgmeister

There was an effort to integrate PAs (who are about the only Medical Corps CWs) into the Officer Corps by giving them Commissions. I would imagine there are no more PA “Chiefs”.


70 posted on 04/04/2020 12:04:33 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

Making public issues of the ship’s preparedness not only put his crew in danger but the nation he serves to defend.
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Which is why there is only ONE correct course of action, and that is to have him court-martialed and sent to Gitmo for life!


71 posted on 04/04/2020 12:08:22 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (To save America the Left MUST be aggressively attacked on every front.)
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To: AndyJackson

Yes and requisitions for medical supplies could have been submitted at the highest priority placing his ship first in line.


72 posted on 04/04/2020 12:12:29 PM PDT by wiley (John 16:33: "In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.")
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To: Starboard

It certainly does appear that his emotions were influencing his judgement. Not a good thing when you command such a poweful warship.
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And what’s even more troubling is that those responsible for his appointment to that command have themselves revealed a poor lack of judgement . . . OR WORSE! That in itself demands a full investigation.


73 posted on 04/04/2020 12:15:02 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (To save America the Left MUST be aggressively attacked on every front.)
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To: Nifster

“Like Vindman he did not follow chain of command
Shouldn’t be in military”

Fox reported an hour ago he did follow chain of command and it got him nowhere.


74 posted on 04/04/2020 12:18:37 PM PDT by setter
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To: kaehurowing

Remember that under Obama thousands and thousands of our military officers were thrown out because they refused to accept political correctness directives, including the homosexual agenda and tranny directives. They were replaced with pajama boys, brown nosers and kiss ups. Our local Marine base lost 3 CO’s in less than six months for “failure to inspire confidence” while the homosexual directives were being implemented. Note also that the Pentagon under Obama inserted political correctness officers and spies to report any politically incorrect behavior by officers.
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That piece of Kenyan garbage should go down in history as one of the worst traitors in American history.


75 posted on 04/04/2020 12:22:45 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (To save America the Left MUST be aggressively attacked on every front.)
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To: setter

When that happens officers are trained to say a hearty “aye,aye” and do what they’re told. If the chain of command told him to proceed with the deployment, he should have done so, taking what steps he could to mitigate infection.

What he should not have done, under no circumstance whatsoever, is go outside the chain of command. I don’t know how he was trained or who the hell he thinks he is, but higher authority has the bigger picture.

Notice how they’re not relieving other commanders of the same strike group? Roosevelt wasn’t alone, and didn’t go into Vietnam and get infected alone. Odds are the other ships of Carrier Group 9 have infections, probably many infections. The difference is their COs didn’t run to the press and substitute their own judgment for that of their superiors.


76 posted on 04/04/2020 12:27:56 PM PDT by elenvee ("...against all enemies, foreign and domestic..")
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To: Alas Babylon!
What if the admiral ordered him not to do anything beyond higher level orders, such as, "The Pentagon wants to keep this whole thing under wraps."?

I've seen such blind eyes turned away when the publicity looks bad to the higher echelons, also; even while the troops get screwed.

What if the pajama clad Obama person on board is Captain Crozier’s immediate superior, the Admiral? Perhaps his response to a situation he had to have been aware of was to put his head in the sand and require Crozier to do nothing?

77 posted on 04/04/2020 12:29:56 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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To: wastoute

“ Admirals don’t command ships. Only Captains.”

Yeh, I looked it up.


78 posted on 04/04/2020 12:30:56 PM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: Swordmaker

Perhaps that is the case. Perhaps not. And Goliath has lost an entire aircraft carrier. How difficult is it to take out all of them. Apparently all you have to do is sneeze on the right sailor.


79 posted on 04/04/2020 12:34:23 PM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: snoringbear

I wasn’t Navy. I was BARELY Army. But Admiral is a FLEET rank. They command groups of ships. The Captains are free to do what they please as long as they can claim they were “following the Commander’s intent”. (The Admiral). And that’s true even if the Admiral is standing right next to him. No admiral gives orders on a ship except to his Staff.

Watch Midway again.


80 posted on 04/04/2020 12:34:47 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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