Posted on 04/02/2020 5:17:09 PM PDT by babylon_times
Is this a passive aggressive article inciting the low IQ to a Marxist revolution? A dog whistle to antifa?
The relative depravity of those two can be debated endlessly. Add to that unholy triumvirate the blind zeal of Leon Trotsky and you have three of the four horsemen. The ends to which they went in pursuit of their mythical utopia left a trail of gore and oppression the likes of which hadn’t been seen since Tamerlane.
Heck, I wouldn’t even say they were pursuing a utopia, more like trying to engineer a dystopia, since Marx and Lenin both made it very clear that they wanted to conduct a gorier remake of Robespierre’s Reign of Terror.
But like the Jacobins, the Soviet revolution was ostensibly in pursuit of “egalite.” No matter the cost.
That’s their PR, I’ll give them that, but Marx and Lenin made it VERY clear that they cared far more about trying to bring about a bloodbath for its own sake than actually creating equality, as you can see with the following quotes:
*”There is only one way in which the murderous death agonies of the old society and the bloody birth throes of the new society can be shortened, simplified and concentrated, and that way is revolutionary terror.”-Marx, Karl, “The Victory of the Counterrevolution in Vienna”, Neue Rheinische Zeitung, November 1848.
*”Once we are at the helm, we shall be obliged to reenact the year 1793…”-Marx-Engels Gesamt-Ausgabe, vol. vi pp 503–505, final issue of Neue Rheinische Zeitung, May 18, 1849. Quoted in Thomas G. West, Marx and Lenin, The Claremont Institute
*”The vengeance of the people will break forth with such ferocity that not even the year 1793 enables us to envisage it.”-Marx-Engels Gesamt-Ausgabe, vol. vi pp 503–505, final issue of Neue Rheinische Zeitung, May 18, 1849. Quoted in Thomas G. West, Marx and Lenin, The Claremont Institute
*”The classes and the races too weak to master the new conditions of life must give way”-Marx, People’s Paper, April 16, 1856
*”They must ...perish in the Revolutionary Holocaust”– Karl Marx (Journal of the History of Ideas, Vol. 42, No. 1. 1981)
To put it another way, what Lenin and Marx truly advocated for was something more akin to what Joker wanted with the world, to watch it burn.
Same goes for the Jacobins and their ilk, as they also were motivated purely by bloodlust and wanting no restraints in appalling behavior, viewing THAT as freedom, thanks to Voltaire and Diderot’s influence, as well as Rousseau and Sade.
Marx certainly believed in abolition of the status quo, and if that meant burning it all down, he was not in any way opposed. But like the Jacobins, it was done ostensibly in pursuit of a New Order — one that required the utter destruction of the Old — but one that would (in theory) eventually be replaced. So his bloodlust was ultimately a means to an end, just as Robespierre’s was. It was Hegel taken halfway — destruction of the thesis by its antithesis, but without the synthesis as a material result. Instead, both of those revolutions just kind of looped back on themselves and the imagined synthesis was swallowed up when the new order simply supplanted the old one without truly changing anything but the flag.
Actually, I doubt the Jacobins even desired a New Order as their motivation. Let’s not forget that one of their key inspirations and followers was a guy named Marquis de Sade, and he didn’t give a rat’s patooey about creating any new order, just bloodlust for bloodlusts sake, no restraints at all. Eventually, he was proven to be so extreme that even Robespierre locked him back up because even HE became worried about him, though even there, several of the Jacobins still used his framework for their executions, such as the Arras guillotines where they quite literally took pages out of 120 Nights of Sodom for how they were to pose the guillotine victims, and I know Carrier specifically cited Sade as his inspiration for the infamous Republican Marriage drownings. Heck, that’s not even getting into Vendee, where they not only tried to slaughter all the Vendeans, but even their own forces at Louis Grignon’s orders, even managing to waste several graineries simply for the sake of destroying things.
Here’s more info on that event:
Heck, here’s some quotes relating to Grignon in particular:
Nicolas Delahaye et Pierre-Marie Gaborit, Les 12 Colonnes infernales de Turreau, p. 104-105.
« Je dois dire d’abord, que le jour de son départ d’Argenton-le-Peuple, Grignon ayant réuni sa colonne, lui fit à peu près cette harangue : « Mes camarades, nous entrons dans le pays insurgé, je vous donne l’ordre exprès de livrer aux flammes tout ce qui sera susceptible d’être brûlé et de passer au fil de la baïonnette tout ce que vous rencontrerez d’habitants sur votre passage. Je sais qu’il peut y avoir quelques patriotes dans ce pays ; c’est égal, nous devons tout sacrifier » [...] Le jour de son départ, il répéta, à la tête de sa colonne, la harangue qu’il avait faite à Argenton-le-Peuple ; ce fut vraiment une armée d’exterminateurs qui sortit de Bressuire ; les paroisses comprises entre Bressuire et La Flocellière, sur une longueur de plus de deux lieues et demie, furent entièrement sacrifiées. Le massacre fut général, et on ne distingua personne ; et c’est surtout dans cette marche que Grignon brûla une immense quantité de subsistances. » (Translation: “I must say first of all that the day of his departure from Argenton-le-Peuple, Grignon having assembled his column, made him nearly this harangue: “ My comrades, we enter the insurgent country, I give you the express order to deliver to the flames all that will be likely to be burned and to pass over the bayonet all that you meet of inhabitants on your way. I know there may be some patriots in this country; it is the same, we must sacrifice everything “ [...] The day of his departure, he repeated at the head of his column the speech he had made at Argenton-le-Peuple; it was really an army of exterminators who left Bressuire; the parishes between Bressuire and La Flocelliere, over a distance of more than two and a half leagues, were entirely sacrificed. The massacre was general, and no one was distinguished; and it is especially in this march that Grignon burned an immense quantity of sustenance. “ )
Reynald Secher, Vendée : du génocide au mémoricide, p. 130.
« Le général Grignon arrive avec sa colonne dans Les Herbiers. Nous allâmes le trouver pour conférer avec lui ; nous lui fîmes observer que la loi défendait expressément de brûler les grains et les fourrages. Nous l’engageâmes à les ménager pour les opérations ultérieures. Il nous dit que les ordres étaient tels, mais qu’ils n’étaient pas exécutés. Il ajouta, quant aux Herbiers, que nous étions heureux que son collègue Amey y fut, que sans cela tous les habitants sans distinction de patriotes ou autrement auraient été fusillés parce que les ordres du général en chef portaient de massacrer, fusiller et incendier tout ce qui se trouvait sur son passage, qu’il avait fait fusiller des municipalités entières, revêtues de leurs écharpes. Nous devons observer que la commune des Herbiers avait été entièrement purgée de tous les aristocrates et aux horreurs que nous avons décrites nous devons ajouter que les portefeuilles de tous les individus ont été pris, tous les volontaires allaient dans les métairies prendre des chevaux, moutons, volailles de toutes espèces. » (Translation: “General Grignon arrives with his column in Les Herbiers. We went to find him to confer with him; we pointed out to him that the law expressly forbade the burning of grain and fodder. We urged him to spare them for subsequent operations. He tells us that the orders were such, but they were not executed. He added, as to the Herbiers, that we were happy that his colleague Amey was there, that otherwise all the inhabitants without distinction of patriots or otherwise would have been shot because the orders of the general-in-chief were to massacre, shoot and burn all this who was in his way, that he had shot whole municipalities, dressed in their scarves. We must observe that the commune of Herbiers had been completely purged of all aristocrats and the horrors we have described we must add that the portfolios of all individuals were taken, all the volunteers went to the farms to take horses, sheep, poultry of all kinds.”)
To quote Dark Knight: Some men just want to watch the world burn.
And don’t get me started on Michel Foucault, and how he wanted to go even FURTHER than Marx and just wanted a permanent rehash of the September Massacres as his view of “popular justice”, which you can see here: https://web.archive.org/web/20141114060055/http://www4.uwm.edu/c21/conferences/2008since1968/foucault_maoists.pdf
So yeah, I wouldn’t think destruction is merely the means, more like the endgoal, based on what they said.
I remember reading about some of the slaughter in the Vendee. It seems one of the Revolutionary tribunals had decided that the resistance there needed to be put down, so they determined that some hundred residents were “enemies of the state” and ordered them picked up. When the gendarmes went to the villages to arrest them, they couldn’t be found. The official insisted that the number of ordered executions had to be performed, so he instructed the troops to just collect that number of residents and transport them to the scaffold. Innocence or guilt was completely immaterial; he had a quote to fill and come hell or high water, he was going to get his quota of heads.
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